[NL2-NL10] AQs nl 10 SH

    • matkov
      matkov
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      Joined: 15.11.2007 Posts: 202
      Should I have folded turn? Reraise preflop? Both? Thanks

      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: ITH Forums)


      Hero ($10.55)
      SB ($9.75)
      BB ($10)
      UTG ($21.25)
      MP ($9.30)
      CO ($1.80)

      Preflop: Hero is Button with A, Q.
      1 fold, MP raises to $0.35, CO calls $0.35, Hero calls $0.35, SB calls $0.30, BB calls $0.25.

      Flop: ($1.75) J, A, 4 (5 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, MP bets $1.75, CO folds, Hero calls $1.75, SB folds, BB calls $1.75.

      Turn: ($7) 4 (3 players)
      BB checks, MP bets $7.2 (All-In), Hero raises to $8.45 (All-In), BB calls $7.90 (All-In).

      River: ($30.55) 3 (3 players, 3 all-in)

      Final Pot: $30

      Results in white below:
      BB has Td Kd (one pair, fours).
      MP has 8c Ac (two pair, aces and fours).
      Hero has Ad Qd (two pair, aces and fours).
      Outcome:
  • 10 replies
    • xylere
      xylere
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      Joined: 27.05.2007 Posts: 2,939
      Hey matkov

      preflop squeeze might be an option
      your hand is pretty strong and you are ip
      however, you don't have statistics, so its hard to figure out your fold equity

      MP flop bet looks very strong
      he can easily have AK or AJ
      given that, we have no fold equity to semi-bluff (in case we assume we might be beat and play our nut FD)

      turn is an easy call though, pot odds are great and we have one player to act behind
    • matkov
      matkov
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      Joined: 15.11.2007 Posts: 202
      hi, thanks for a really fast reply.. But how come turn is an easy call? Aren't pot odds for the turn call 2:1 (before the third player calls) but my nut flush draw is 4:1? And isn't the one player left to act behind strange as he might also have smth strong..even a full house?

      thanks
    • Petrificus
      Petrificus
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      Joined: 18.02.2008 Posts: 394
      I would have reraised the flop, because of top pair and NF draw. Most of the cases you then see a free river card and can redevelop your hand there.

      Preflop i'd also only call, since there are already two players in the hand.

      I'm also not sure if the turn is an easy call. i probably fold there, because of, as you said, the odds. Don't see why they are great, too...
      Is it that we need pot odds of 3:1, cause we have a 25% chance to win and the player behind us might call, which would give as exactly this?
    • xylere
      xylere
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      Joined: 27.05.2007 Posts: 2,939
      Originally posted by matkov
      hi, thanks for a really fast reply.. But how come turn is an easy call? Aren't pot odds for the turn call 2:1 (before the third player calls) but my nut flush draw is 4:1? And isn't the one player left to act behind strange as he might also have smth strong..even a full house?

      thanks
      yeah you need 4:1 to play fd, but
      you might have more outs (Q)
      your TP might be good sometimes, its NL 10 overall

      player behind won't often have full house, since he had to slowplay 2 streets for that
    • matkov
      matkov
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      aha thanks
    • burningzeus
      burningzeus
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      Joined: 06.06.2007 Posts: 480
      Originally posted by Petrificus
      I would have reraised the flop, because of top pair and NF draw. Most of the cases you then see a free river card and can redevelop your hand there.

      Preflop i'd also only call, since there are already two players in the hand.
      I have to disagree.
      MP is PFA. He is betting PS meaning he wants to protect and it´s very likely he hast a strong hand (at least TP)
      I don´t think he would check a non-diamond-turn

      I think Preflop is fine just as a squeeze is
    • Petrificus
      Petrificus
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      Joined: 18.02.2008 Posts: 394
      But if we reraise, what would he put us on? He might think that with a FD we'd only call, so we could have a set, ergo he folds or calls and checks the turn :D
    • burningzeus
      burningzeus
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      we could have made this move with a FD
      and if he has something like AJ he should figure out, that we are not holding a set and we´re behind
    • Thorsten77
      Thorsten77
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      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 12,896
      Preflop you may squeeze.

      Raise/call flop: you have a monster hand and I'd be willing to go all-in
    • burningzeus
      burningzeus
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      Originally posted by Thorsten77
      Preflop you may squeeze.

      Raise/call flop: you have a monster hand and I'd be willing to go all-in
      Which worse Hand is calling this raise to a PS-Bet?
      I´m not talking about a Hand you´re ahead against, but a worse hand atm.

      And you could make a worse hand fold