Awful plays from Pokerstars' SNG regs

    • savage1981
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      Poker Stars $27.78+$2.22 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds + t25 - 4 players - View hand 2021830
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      Raventhon (BB): t4015 M = 10.04
      cocoduro (CO): t3320 M = 8.30
      Pl4gue1 (BTN): t2285 M = 5.71
      Hero (SB): t3880 M = 9.70

      Pre Flop: (t400) Hero is SB with 5 :heart: 5 :spade:
      2 folds, Hero raises to t3855 all in, Raventhon calls t3655

      Flop: (t7810) J :spade: 9 :heart: 4 :diamond: (2 players - 1 is all in)

      Turn: (t7810) A :heart: (2 players - 1 is all in)

      River: (t7810) 4 :club: (2 players - 1 is all in)

      Final Pot: t7810
      Raventhon shows T :club: Q :club: (a pair of Fours)
      Hero shows 5 :heart: 5 :spade: (two pair, Fives and Fours)
      Hero wins t7810
  • 35 replies
    • IngridN
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      hey savage, is this suppose to be a blog entry?
    • savage1981
      savage1981
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      Hey Ingrid. No, it's just gonna be me exposing really bad plays by other players.
    • IngridN
      IngridN
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      :D geez, ok be nice though. May I move this to small talk please?
    • savage1981
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      I promise not to swear. If you think that it's more appropriate category then go ahead.
    • IngridN
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      Thank you :) I've moved it now.
    • savage1981
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      Hero (UTG+2): t1545 30.90 BBs
      jesko1986 (MP1): t1475 29.50 BBs
      Corkeye (MP2): t1470 29.40 BBs
      HerekPL (CO): t1675 33.50 BBs
      JarppeK (BTN): t1720 34.40 BBs
      Hanggy (SB): t1650 33 BBs
      taniaftw (BB): t1500 30 BBs
      Flobse (UTG): t1275 25.50 BBs
      Romeo1402 (UTG+1): t1190 23.80 BBs

      Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is UTG+2 with Q :diamond: A :heart:
      2 folds, Hero raises to t125, 5 folds, taniaftw calls t75

      Flop: (t275) J :heart: 5 :heart: 9 :heart: (2 players)
      taniaftw checks, Hero bets t150, taniaftw calls t150

      Turn: (t575) Q :club: (2 players)
      taniaftw bets t300, Hero raises to t1270 all in, taniaftw calls t925 all in

      River: (t3025) 6 :diamond: (2 players - 2 are all in)

      Final Pot: t3025
      Hero shows Q :diamond: A :heart: (a pair of Queens)
      taniaftw shows 8 :heart: 8 :diamond: (a pair of Eights)
      Hero wins t3025
    • Tim64
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      H1. Definitely one for your notes. ;)

      I wouldn't post too many of these, though. You're actually giving quite a lot of info to all the fellow regs in yours and his games. Now they know to avoid shoving wide into this guy b/c he makes spewy calls on the bubble. You're potientially handing this guy free walks in future games against regs who see this hand. Since his call is bad (losing him and you $ in this spot, when you have to flip with him for your T life) if he should happen to search his name and see this, he might improve...
    • Luupainaja
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      Socir89 (t2310)
      Button (t2466)
      SB (t897)
      BB (t327)
      Hero (UTG) (t7500)

      Hero's M: 13.04

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7, A
      Hero bets t7475 (All-In), Socir89 calls t2285 (All-In), 2 folds, BB calls t2 (All-In)

      Flop: (t5147) 6, 3, 3 (3 players, 3 all-in)

      Turn: (t5147) A (3 players, 3 all-in)

      River: (t5147) 4 (3 players, 3 all-in)

      Total pot: t5147

      He had A8s - its over -5 EqDiff% if i push nash and over -3 if i push atc.
    • savage1981
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      butterfrog72 (UTG+1): t1830 61 BBs
      justnoob123 (MP1): t1440 48 BBs
      elpaluch23 (MP2): t1305 43.50 BBs
      Hero (CO): t1470 49 BBs
      cassio47 (BTN): t1455 48.50 BBs
      taniaftw (SB): t1440 48 BBs
      steambull (BB): t3060 102 BBs
      Duuglas (UTG): t1500 50 BBs

      Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is CO with A :diamond: Q :heart:
      4 folds, Hero raises to t75, 1 fold, taniaftw calls t60, 1 fold

      Flop: (t180) Q :spade: 4 :spade: 4 :heart: (2 players)
      taniaftw checks, Hero bets t90, taniaftw raises to t240, Hero calls t150

      Turn: (t660) 4 :diamond: (2 players)
      taniaftw bets t1125 all in, Hero calls t1125

      River: (t2910) 7 :heart: (2 players - 1 is all in)

      Final Pot: t2910
      Hero shows A :diamond: Q :heart: (a full house, Fours full of Queens)
      taniaftw shows T :diamond: T :club: (a full house, Fours full of Tens)
      Hero wins t2910
    • ipeaceonu
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      Did you also tell tales at school?
    • savage1981
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      Originally posted by Tim64
      H1. Definitely one for your notes. ;)

      I wouldn't post too many of these, though. You're actually giving quite a lot of info to all the fellow regs in yours and his games. Now they know to avoid shoving wide into this guy b/c he makes spewy calls on the bubble. You're potientially handing this guy free walks in future games against regs who see this hand. Since his call is bad (losing him and you $ in this spot, when you have to flip with him for your T life) if he should happen to search his name and see this, he might improve...
      I guess you're right. I don't normally make a habit of educating the fish, but I guess I shouldn't publicly flame bad regs either. What's worse, they might turn to you for some coaching and you'd be pointing these same spots, but charging them for it :D
    • ghaleon
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      Just leave nicks out from future posts. I think these sort of posts are not good etiquette toward any fellow player. Maybe just my opinion.
    • dogma18
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      what is wrong with posting these hands? If it was a $1.50 people would be saying keep playing and eventually you will win money etc etc.

      Why should $15/$30 players be treated any different?
    • abhi147
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      BB is a loose fishy reg

      Hero (BTN): 1,535.00
      SB: 6,940.00
      BB: 5,025.00

      Hero posts ante 50.00, SB posts ante 50.00, BB posts ante 50.00, SB posts SB 300.00, BB posts BB 600.00

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1050.00) Hero has 5d 9c

      fold, SB raises to 6,890.00 and is all-in, BB calls 4,375.00 and is all-in

      Flop: (10100.00, 2 players) Th Qd Qc

      Turn: (10100.00, 2 players) 9s

      River: (10100.00, 2 players) Ah

      SB shows Kd Ad (Two Pair, Aces and Queens) (Pre 64%, Flop 86%, Turn 77%)
      BB shows Js 3s (One Pair, Queens) (Pre 36%, Flop 14%, Turn 23%)
      SB wins 10,100.00
    • abhi147
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      Originally posted by dogma18
      what is wrong with posting these hands? If it was a $1.50 people would be saying keep playing and eventually you will win money etc etc.

      Why should $15/$30 players be treated any different?
      Because we dont want them to improve?
    • ExternalUseOnly
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      Originally posted by ghaleon
      Just leave nicks out from future posts. I think these sort of posts are not good etiquette toward any fellow player. Maybe just my opinion.
      I agree :)

      Also why would you want to tell everyone else? Sure post the hand but these are the players you want all to yourself!
    • feursturm
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      Agree 100% re the bad etiquette in using screen names when posting a hand (don't think the poster intended any malice btw and in reply to him/her, no, nothing wrong with posting hands, just the use of the screen name was being objected to, the hands were good). I wouldn't like it if it was me being exposed playing poorly.

      However, does it not follow then that Coaches shouldn't post instructional videos on the site where live play is involved without first editing names out? How many hundreds of "fish" "bad regs" etc are having their nicks and poor plays exposed every week here via this medium? Even when done using a hand re player I rarely see videos where players names are edited out to read "Seat 1, Seat 2.....etc or even being blurred prior to posting.

      How about live training tonight...will hands not be discussed with names of villains displayed on screen for all to see? What do you think?
    • savage1981
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      Originally posted by feursturm
      Agree 100% re the bad etiquette in using screen names when posting a hand (don't think the poster intended any malice btw and in reply to him/her, no, nothing wrong with posting hands, just the use of the screen name was being objected to, the hands were good). I wouldn't like it if it was me being exposed playing poorly.

      However, does it not follow then that Coaches shouldn't post instructional videos on the site where live play is involved without first editing names out? How many hundreds of "fish" "bad regs" etc are having their nicks and poor plays exposed every week here via this medium? Even when done using a hand re player I rarely see videos where players names are edited out to read "Seat 1, Seat 2.....etc or even being blurred prior to posting.

      How about live training tonight...will hands not be discussed with names of villains displayed on screen for all to see? What do you think?
      I guess I was a little bit malicious, however the point of the thread was just to have a bit of fun more than anything. You do make an interesting point though. But would you say that quoting somebody saying something stupid and then revealing their identity is bad etiquette too?
    • ExternalUseOnly
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      Originally posted by feursturm
      Agree 100% re the bad etiquette in using screen names when posting a hand (don't think the poster intended any malice btw and in reply to him/her, no, nothing wrong with posting hands, just the use of the screen name was being objected to, the hands were good). I wouldn't like it if it was me being exposed playing poorly.

      However, does it not follow then that Coaches shouldn't post instructional videos on the site where live play is involved without first editing names out? How many hundreds of "fish" "bad regs" etc are having their nicks and poor plays exposed every week here via this medium? Even when done using a hand re player I rarely see videos where players names are edited out to read "Seat 1, Seat 2.....etc or even being blurred prior to posting.

      How about live training tonight...will hands not be discussed with names of villains displayed on screen for all to see? What do you think?
      I see where you are coming from but i think there is a fine line somewhere. Here is my opinion anyway. There is a difference. Someone posting hands saying "omg look at this fkn fish he playz 82 coz its sooted" (im not talking about OP by the way im just speaking in general) posting 5/6 hands of a really bad player or like in this instance some bad regs, is a lot worse than in a coaching or a vid where the coach would say something like "ok in this spot we can play x y and z hands because we have seen him make bad plays already" It very rarely gets to a stage of berating an opponent. Also as said in here coaches won't want to say too much about specific players in vids because they use those reads to make money.

      So whilst it's essentially the same thing the way its done makes it a lot more acceptable in my opinion anyway
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