Originally posted by Schnitzelfisch
Ahh, winrate...
I'm sorry for not answering your questions as I have no idea about NL rush winrates, BUT I'm not sure how much any answer would actually help you, because:
-There's variance, so your winrate will vary constantly because of it, no matter how big of a sample you have.
-Even EV has variance (always flop nuts, your EV goes up. Constantly run into setups/get money in with 2nd nuts vs nuts -> EV goes down.)
-Your winrate after playing 20k hands should be different than before that (or you're doing something wrong ie. not learning/improving constantly), so maybe you could talk about average winrate or something like that at best.
So I would recommend to focus on the things that you have an effect on - fixing your leaks and improving + analyzing your game, and not caring too much about winrates etc. 
.
I hope this reply won't be considered too harsh, but I've always wanted to mention my view on winrates somewhere 
.
-SF
I'm not sure I understand.
I'm not a fan of EV, and i understand why that is not good to use,
But Winrate seems significantly different to me. Of course I'm talking about average win rate, I'm not talking about my win rate on hand number 20k.
Since variance happens, let's assume it is always happening (and doesn't just happen suddenly in the last 10 hands). My win rate over 20k hands will be more accurate than my winrate over 1 hand (where I won a stack, and so it looks pretty darn good).
Why wouldn't it be reasonable to expect a certain win rate over 20k hands?
In terms of what's good and what's not, I was doing some article reading and a guy was analysing some players, each one had win rates over 13. That's why I say it didn't feel low to me, but after seeing win rates at 13+, it seems like it may be low.. or maybe Im actually on an upswing and I should just be happy.
