# [NL20-NL50] still value?

• Bronze
Joined: 05.02.2008
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\$0.1/\$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

Known players:
BU:
\$12.15
SB (Hero):
\$24.75
BB:
\$28.72
MP2:
\$67.29
MP3:
\$17.54
CO:
\$25.00

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q.
MP2 folds, MP3 raises to \$0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to \$2.00, BB folds, MP3 calls \$1.50.

Flop: (\$4.25) 9, 3, 7 (2 players)
Hero bets \$2.50, MP3 calls \$2.50.

Turn: (\$9.25) T (2 players)
Hero bets \$4.80, MP3 calls \$4.80.

River: (\$18.85) A (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks.

Final Pot: \$18.85.
Results follow:

Hero shows a pair of queens(Q Q).
MP3 shows a pair of nines(K 9).

Hero wins with a pair of queens(Q Q).

he is unknown,A came on the river,can I still value bet here?
• 3 replies
• Basic
Joined: 12.05.2010
Hi Daisuke,

Let's do an exercise together:

What range does villain get with to the river?

Considering the limited information we have I'd say his widest range for reaching river would be something like: 88, TT, JJ, 98s, T8s, A9s (some 9Ks, Q9s)some 99/77/33, 78s.

And a more narrow range would be 33/77/99, 88, TT, JJ some A9s however he is short, min raised and called a 3bet OOP so he is most likely a fish and closer to the first range.

So what do you think, how many worse hands does he have and how many can call bet? Consider we have only 1/2 pot bet left so any bet we make would have to be a shove.
• Bronze
Joined: 05.02.2008
Originally posted by BogdanPS
Hi Daisuke,

Let's do an exercise together:

What range does villain get with to the river?

Considering the limited information we have I'd say his widest range for reaching river would be something like: 88, TT, JJ, 98s, T8s, A9s (some 9Ks, Q9s)some 99/77/33, 78s.

And a more narrow range would be 33/77/99, 88, TT, JJ some A9s however he is short, min raised and called a 3bet OOP so he is most likely a fish and closer to the first range.

So what do you think, how many worse hands does he have and how many can call bet? Consider we have only 1/2 pot bet left so any bet we make would have to be a shove.

he is in position
• Basic
Joined: 12.05.2010
Originally posted by daisuke3823
Originally posted by BogdanPS
Hi Daisuke,

Let's do an exercise together:

What range does villain get with to the river?

Considering the limited information we have I'd say his widest range for reaching river would be something like: 88, TT, JJ, 98s, T8s, A9s (some 9Ks, Q9s)some 99/77/33, 78s.

And a more narrow range would be 33/77/99, 88, TT, JJ some A9s however he is short, min raised and called a 3bet OOP so he is most likely a fish and closer to the first range.

So what do you think, how many worse hands does he have and how many can call bet? Consider we have only 1/2 pot bet left so any bet we make would have to be a shove.

he is in position
So out of that entire thing you look only at the OOP part?

I just typed it wrong. IP makes his range wider. So the exercise still stands.