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[NL20-NL50] JJ 4 bet pot oop nl 25 sh

    • dzikson999
      dzikson999
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.08.2010 Posts: 532
      PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      SB: $29.98
      BB: $26.03
      Hero (UTG): $27.17
      CO: $40.23
      BTN: $38.09

      SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has J:spade: J:diamond:

      Hero raises to $0.75, fold, BTN raises to $2.20, fold, fold, Hero raises to $5.25, BTN calls $3.05

      Flop: ($10.85, 2 players) 5:heart: 7:diamond: 4:spade:
      Hero bets $6.25, BTN raises to $28.90, Hero calls $15.67 and is all-in

      Turn: ($54.69, 2 players) 8:heart:

      River: ($54.69, 2 players) 2:club:
      Villain is loose agro plays 30/28, agr f 2.5, 3 bet 12%, 4 bet 5.3%,wtsd23%, raise flop 20% 150 hands
      call or fold given the odds ( he could have AA,KK ,QQ,10 10 and i guess time to time some Ak bluffs ?!) what do you think ?
  • 6 replies
    • imfromsweden007
      imfromsweden007
      Bronze
      Joined: 11.10.2008 Posts: 726
      Hi,

      I think you played the hand fine. Sizing seems fine as well.

      ifs
    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.12.2010 Posts: 14,640
      Originally posted by imfromsweden007
      Hi,

      I think you played the hand fine. Sizing seems fine as well.

      ifs
      Do you think many players bluff like this? :P . I think it's pretty close :( :(

      And why bet so huge? It's a 4B pot ;) 1/3th seems fine?
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779
      hi,

      I think sizing could be 40-50% (board is a little more coordinated and cards are all low). 1/3 may be a little too small. But 1/3 pot is really great for boards like AXX or KXX.

      And we don't really expect BU to flat QQ+ so we have a hand that should be almost equivalent to AA (unless he slowplays AA/KK to trap against your bluff heavy 4bet range)
    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.12.2010 Posts: 14,640
      Well, you def cannot discount QQ+. I'd even give him 2 combo's from each hand. If he never bluffs here it becomes a clear fold. Why do you assume he could bluff here vs or strong 4B?

      Because of his raise cbet%. This is a somewhat rare spot and I think we shouldn't really look at the cbetraise%

      Dzikson, what did he have? It might be learnfull to see the result
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779
      6 combos of qq kk aa is way too high ill give him 2 combos at the very most without dynamic.
    • dzikson999
      dzikson999
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.08.2010 Posts: 532
      He had QQ. Hope it helps..;)