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[NL20-NL50] NL50 KK 3bet pot

    • jozata
      Joined: 30.07.2008 Posts: 646
      Full Tilt, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

      Hero (BTN): $50 (100 bb)
      SB: $54.80 (109.6 bb)
      BB: $58.25 (116.5 bb)
      UTG: $151.85 (303.7 bb)
      MP: $50.75 (101.5 bb)
      CO: $88.70 (177.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with K K
      UTG folds, MP raises to $1.75, CO folds, Hero raises to $5.25, SB folds, BB calls $4.75, MP folds

      Flop: ($12.50) T J 6 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $7, BB calls $7

      Turn: ($26.50) A (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks

      River: ($26.50) A (2 players)
      BB bets $17.50, Hero calls $17.50

      Hard to asses unknowns cold calling range here.
      I bet the flop for value.
      Dont' see much value in betting the turn.
      The A river makes it less likely for him to have an A. After my turn check should I call this large river bet?
  • 3 replies
    • mbml
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779

      This is an interesting spot. While my first instinct is to call, I actually think this should be a fold but I could be wrong.

      What's his 3b cold calling range? Answer this question, then tell me what hands he is calling the Flop with. Pokerstove your equity, and compare this with your pot odds of 17.5/61.5 = 28.4%.

      I'll check your workings
    • jozata
      Joined: 30.07.2008 Posts: 646
      Well, as I said he is unknown.
      But lets say his preflop cold calling range is 99+,AQ+.
      On the flop he could call with TT+,AQ+. He could also c/r QQ (6 combos), KK (1 combo), AA (6combos). But lets say he just calls. He checks this turn with his whole flop calling range. He then bets the river with TT,JJ,AA, AQ,AK.
      Board: JhTc6dAsAd
      Equity Win Tie
      MP2 100.00% 100.00% 0.00% { AA, JJ-TT, AQs+, AQo+ }
      MP3 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% { KdKs }

      Clear fold if this is the case...
      Your thoughts?
    • BogdanPS
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Against unknown we can't really give him a much wider range than what you just gave him so the river is definitely much closer to a fold than a call.

      We can't assume he floats flop with 88-99 (if he even has those) and then he'd rarely bluff the river with them.

      So TT, JJ would most likely slowplay, and he has a few Ax that can still call flop like AQs, AKs. All of these would bet river.