[NL20-NL50] river check fold?

    • daisuke3823
      Joined: 05.02.2008 Posts: 8,321
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:


      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      SB (Hero):

      Preflop: Hero is SB with K, A.
      MP2 folds, MP3 raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.40, BB folds, MP3 calls $1.65.

      Flop: ($5.05) K, 7, 3 (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.70, MP3 calls $2.70.

      Turn: ($10.45) 9 (2 players)
      Hero bets $5.70, MP3 calls $5.70.

      River: ($21.85) Q (2 players)
      Hero bets $16.95, MP3 calls $14.45.

      Final Pot: $53.25.
      Results follow:

      MP3 shows three of a kind, nines(9 9).
      Hero shows a pair of kings(K A).

      MP3 wins with three of a kind, nines(9 9).

      he is unknown,river should be check fold?
  • 2 replies
    • DannyJQ
      Joined: 13.07.2011 Posts: 1,507
      Why we bet turn? We can hardly get 3 streets of value from a worse hand anyway. I think we can safely check the turn, as the board is not dangerous for us.
    • mbml
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694

      1) I'm fine with the preflop 3bet. Especially when you are in the SB. I could consider calling in the BB against a UTG or MP open if they have a tight range. This would be a much better spot for calling than the previous AK hand where you called vs a BU open raise with AKs and checkraised on the AQX board.

      2) I think the Turn bet is standard and we should almost always shove the River. I don't see villain having AA/77/33 very often and we have the best hand almost always. No reason to pot control at any point in the hand.

      3) I check/fold on this particular river. The main hands we were trying to go for value against are KQ and it got there. Now, I'm not sure how often people are actually defending KQ vs you since you are so tight. But at the same time we are not beat by much.

      I'm also really surprised at the result. It's a really bad Flop call from MP3 when your 3bet range is just so strong in these positions.