[NL20-NL50] NL25 SH - QTo: 3bet pot

    • Lunitis
      Lunitis
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.02.2009 Posts: 20,136
      22/18/3.5
      39% steal BU
      63% fold vs 3bet (79% BU)
      34% fold vs cbet flop 3bet pot
      22% raise cbet 3bet pot
      52% wwsf
      8.3k hands


      SB: $39.42 (157.7 bb)
      Hero (BB): $39.32 (157.3 bb)
      MP: $25.54 (102.2 bb)
      CO: $30.26 (121 bb)
      BTN: $51.80 (207.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with T:spade: Q:club:
      2 folds, BTN raises to $0.75, SB folds, Hero raises to $2.50, BTN calls $1.75

      Flop: ($5.10) 8:club: T:club: 9:heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.70, BTN calls $2.70

      Turn: ($10.50) K:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $7, Hero calls $7

      River: ($24.50) 9:spade: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $17, Hero calls $17

      Hi.
      I dont think he will flat flop with T9, 89 or sets so i exclude full house from his range. He could have QJ, but i think he could raise it on the flop too, and anyway its only a small fraction when compared with AQ and AJ, KQ i think he raise more than call on the flop, and i dont think he would bet that high on the river with KJ. To me looks so much like AQ/AJ...
      Nh?
  • 5 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,698
      Hi.

      Our hand is strong enough to call preflop so I won't 3bet it in BB.

      Postflop: I agree that he should rarely have 2pairs or sets on the Flop after he calls. His flop continuation range looks a lot like AJ KJ QJ KQ.

      C/C Turn seems reasonable. I'm just wondering how much we actually beat when he bets the River again. Would he follow through with his bluffs? Does he float AQ on the Flop? I don't think the 9 on the River changes anything - I expect him to check back the Turn often with 9X.

      I think overall c/c again is fine since flush draws missed and JX also missed.

      Now that I look at it again, I think your preflop 3bet is a huge mistake. Your hand plays very poorly and you are 150bb deep.
    • Lunitis
      Lunitis
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.02.2009 Posts: 20,136
      I felt that my hand wasnt strong enough to flat pre-flop. My overall 3bet strategy is to 3bet hands right after my calling range. So if i flat QJ ena i dont think QT is strong enough to call i 3bet with it.
      I dont think my hand is that important when he folds 79%. I wont get crazy on the pos-flop with a pair (well...i just did, but i think i had reasons for it).
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,698
      I think QT is surely strong enough vs a BU opening range. Try stoving QTo's equity vs his opening range from BU. I think it should be fairly high (which would definitely justify a call).

      It's true that your hand is less important when he folds so often though.
    • Lunitis
      Lunitis
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.02.2009 Posts: 20,136

             Equity  Vencer  Empate
      MP2    45.53%  43.77%   1.76% { QcTs }
      MP3    54.47%  52.70%   1.76% { 22+, A2s+, K6s+, Q7s+, J7s+, T7s+, 97s+, 86s+, 75s+, 64s+, 54s, A2o+, K8o+, Q8o+, J9o+, T9o }


      You call JTo to?
      I dont really have a reason not to call. I have kinda static range to call with my broadways, normally i wont go under KTo, QJo, A9o to call. I think i have to reconsider this :) . QT seems reasonable to just call.
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,698
      It gets closer with JTo thats for sure. I may 3b or fold it. Definitely not calling T9o though vs a tighter range and 3bb open.