[NL2-NL10] AA fold flop after a 3-bet

    • Th334
      Th334
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      Joined: 26.11.2012 Posts: 971
      Party, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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      Hero (MP2): $2.11 (105.5 bb)
      SB: $2.87 (143.5 bb)
      MP3: $2 (100 bb)
      UTG+1: $2.10 (105 bb)
      UTG+2: $2.38 (119 bb)
      CO: $0.53 (26.5 bb)
      BTN: $2.13 (106.5 bb)
      MP1: $1.95 (97.5 bb)
      BB: $1.89 (94.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A A
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, MP3 calls $0.08, CO folds, BTN calls $0.08, SB folds, BB calls $0.06

      Flop: ($0.33) T 7 J (4 players)
      BB bets $0.16, Hero raises to $0.53, MP3 raises to $1.55, 3 folds

      I guess fold is pretty default, yep? But what about raising in the first place? I was trying to make folks to fold their draws (at least for me, bet and re-raise would seem too scary to call with a draw), plus I hoped that BB was bluffing. Apparently he wasn't.

      Also, if someone called, I should give up even on a blank turn to any aggression, right?

      TY
  • 4 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi German,

      Preflop: looks fine (with many fish behind we can raise bigger pre)

      Flop: We shouldn't raise that flop to make people fold draws because then they would play correctly. If they call they make a mistake because they don't get the odds (unless you give them a free card).

      So we raise flop for pure value and protection.

      As played I'd also raise/fold especially since we got cold 3-bet bigish.
    • Th334
      Th334
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      Joined: 26.11.2012 Posts: 971
      Oh, I didn't know that you are a micro NL hand judge as well! Awesome!

      Originally posted by BogdanPS
      Flop: We shouldn't raise that flop to make people fold draws because then they would play correctly. If they call they make a mistake because they don't get the odds (unless you give them a free card).
      Hm, but wouldn't they make even bigger mistake by calling with even worse pot odds? :) They have good implied odds in a multiway pot by the way.

      Also, I'm a bit confused, tbh. Should I prefer them calling against the odds to folding? I always preferred them folding, because I don't give a damn about their bankroll, but I do about the pot! :)
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      If the opponents call with draws just to hit and the odds are against them then that's good for us (over the long term).

      So I don't want them folding a draw when calling would be a mistake (for them).
    • Th334
      Th334
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      Joined: 26.11.2012 Posts: 971
      Oh, I got it. When he doesn't finish his draw, all the money he called will go to us. And he won't finish it more often :)

      Thanks!