[NL2-NL10] Nl 10 Sh - Jj

    • TinoLaan
      TinoLaan
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.10.2011 Posts: 6,411
      iPoker - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      MP: $9.28
      CO: $21.14
      Hero (BTN): $10.15
      SB: $11.25
      BB: $11.10
      UTG: $10.15

      SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has J:club: J:spade:

      fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.20, fold, BB raises to $0.70, Hero calls $0.50

      Flop: ($1.45, 2 players) 8:heart: 5:heart: 9:club:
      BB bets $0.90, Hero calls $0.90

      Turn: ($3.25, 2 players) Q:diamond:
      BB checks, Hero bets $1.85, BB calls $1.85

      River: ($6.95, 2 players) 5:spade:
      BB checks, Hero checks

      Hero mucks J:club: J:spade: (Two Pair, Jacks and Fives) (Pre 54%, Flop 72%, Turn 14%)
      BB shows A:club: Q:club: (Two Pair, Queens and Fives) (Pre 46%, Flop 28%, Turn 86%)
      BB wins $6.49


      Villain is 16/10/1.9 (3bet) over ~640 hands, and is a reasonably solid player.

      I know villain is capable of 3betting AQs, so I figure he would have a range of something like TT+, AQ+ here. I don't see him 3betting with random suited connectors or A-rag hands or something.

      I also expect him to cbet his entire range here. Raising would essentially turn my hand into a bluff, so I just called. If he had AK or AQ of hearts, I do give him a cheap look at the turn, but so be it, I guess?

      On the turn he checked. Therefore I wasn't too scared of him having a better hand than me here, because he would probably continue firing with AQ and QQ+ due to the board texture. So I decided to get value from his TT if he's willing to call with that, and maybe from AKs if he has that.

      On the river I didn't think there would be much value in betting after he called the turn, so I decided to check behind. I was a bit surprised to see him have AQ here tbh.

      Anything I could/should have done differently here? Maybe make a thin value bet on the river?
  • 4 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi Tino,

      Preflop: 1.9% 3-bet is rather small over this sample however we did minraise so I'd agree that he can have AQ+, TT+ (maybe JJ+).

      As played I'd call flop but most likely check the turn. Can we get value from much? Do we really need to protect from much? Most hands we get value from is max 1 street (the rare TT). AKhh would probably bet but that's only one combo anyway
    • Th334
      Th334
      Bronze
      Joined: 26.11.2012 Posts: 971
      Hi all,

      Bogdan, why can't we float looking for some fold equity here? A queen is a good card for this, almost seems like an example from a textbook. Apart from the fold equity, we are most likely buying ourselves a free showdown as well.
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by Th334
      Hi all,

      Bogdan, why can't we float looking for some fold equity here? A queen is a good card for this, almost seems like an example from a textbook. Apart from the fold equity, we are most likely buying ourselves a free showdown as well.
      If we had a draw or something similar then sure because better can fold.

      But with JJ what better hands fold? Floating means we call with weaker hands to potentially attack the pots later on and take them down.

      We may get called by worse but not much worse at all, and we can't be turn/river.

      Now let's say we have KT/KJhh then we have K high so him folding AK or other hands is good so betting would be fine.
    • Th334
      Th334
      Bronze
      Joined: 26.11.2012 Posts: 971
      Oh...true, better hands do not fold. That's a bit of an insight for me :) Although I heard this concept million times, I still didn't apply it properly. "He can fold -- then we bet" was my line of thinking :)

      You never know...I just asked a random question and got a very valuable advice.

      Thanks!