[NL2-NL10] Was it a good call? AQo drawy board

    • Rihard4a
      Rihard4a
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      Prima, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      UTG: $3.59 (179.5 bb)
      MP: $7.25 (362.5 bb)
      CO: $2.54 (127 bb)
      BTN: $1.97 (98.5 bb)
      SB: $2.12 (106 bb)
      Hero (BB): $4.41 (220.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with A:club: Q:diamond:
      2 folds, CO raises to $0.06, BTN folds, SB calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.04

      Flop: ($0.18) T:heart: A:heart: K:club: (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $0.13, SB folds, Hero calls $0.13

      Turn: ($0.44) 2:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $0.31, Hero calls $0.31

      River: ($1.06) 8:club: (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80

      Results: $2.66 pot ($0.10 rake)
      Final Board: T:heart: A:heart: K:club: 2:diamond: 8:club:
      CO showed A:diamond: T:club: and won $2.56 ($1.26 net)
      Hero mucked A:club: Q:diamond: and lost (-$1.30 net)
  • 7 replies
    • kymupa
      kymupa
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      Hello,

      Preflop I'd squeeze here.
      So much dead money plus we have a decent hand.

      What do you think about donking the flop? Quite a lot of draws to take value from, and also I don't expect CO to bluff on this board against two opponents.

      As played on the flop, check/calling the turn is good since he could bet some draws or weaker Ax.

      I'd fold the river without any specific information since I don't expect him to bet any weaker hands here.

      Best,
      Plamen
    • Rihard4a
      Rihard4a
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      Hmm, thanks for clarifying. But imo, preflop squeeze with AQo isn't really appropriate OOP. I might consider AQs to squeeze in OOP.
    • holmeboy
      holmeboy
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      Originally posted by Rihard4a
      Hmm, thanks for clarifying. But imo, preflop squeeze with AQo isn't really appropriate OOP. I might consider AQs to squeeze in OOP.
      AQs is better for calling imo.

      I'd play it the same way as the kyumpa
    • Rihard4a
      Rihard4a
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      Originally posted by holmeboy
      Originally posted by Rihard4a
      Hmm, thanks for clarifying. But imo, preflop squeeze with AQo isn't really appropriate OOP. I might consider AQs to squeeze in OOP.
      AQs is better for calling imo.

      I'd play it the same way as the kyumpa
      Why AQo > AQs OOP? If AQs has more equity?
    • holmeboy
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      This is ofc my opinion so I could be wrong but I'll explain my thought process in a bit. Want to ask you first:

      When is equity most important?
    • Rihard4a
      Rihard4a
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      Originally posted by holmeboy
      This is ofc my opinion so I could be wrong but I'll explain my thought process in a bit. Want to ask you first:

      When is equity most important?
      Both, IP and OOP.

      IMO = IP with high equity you have more chances to win, OOP less chances to lose. Doesn't that make sense?
    • holmeboy
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      Sorry, I meant when 3betting or calling.

      But you need more equity to call a bet than to make a bet yourself. So using that, AQs is better to call than AQo as like you said AQs has more equity.

      Another point is SPR. The lower the SPR the more value tp type hands get and less value draws get so AQo and AQs play pretty much the same way.

      With a bigger SPR there's more room to manoeuvre so with AQs we can float a lot more, take more lines like x/r flop, and donk multiple streets with the extra equity.
      Its only a small difference but if you make a breakeven play with AQo, then the extra ~4% equity AQs has means you'll be making $$$

      You haven't posted villains stats so it's hard to comment but are you happy going broke with AQ pre vrs either of these guys?

      I'd much rather 3b/fold AQo than AQs.

      This is if we're 3betting only one and calling the other. Against these nl2 guys 3betting both is probably going to be fine.