[NL2-NL10] [Nl10-Sh] Qq

    • gxtwo
      gxtwo
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      ***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Prima)
      €10.00 EUR NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, December 13, 11:06:33 ET 2012
      Table Anon Holdem 7 10 Max (Real Money)
      Seat 3 is the button
      Seat 1: Player1 ( €9.85 EUR ) - VPIP: 29, PFR: 18, 3B: 8, AF: 2.5, Hands: 774
      Seat 2: Player2 ( €11.30 EUR ) - VPIP: 30, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 2.5, Hands: 829
      Seat 3: Player3 ( €8.74 EUR ) - VPIP: 26, PFR: 14, 3B: 4, AF: 1.5, Hands: 811
      Seat 4: Player4 ( €7.79 EUR ) - VPIP: 23, PFR: 12, 3B: 3, AF: 1.6, Hands: 568
      Seat 5: Player5 ( €10.20 EUR ) - VPIP: 23, PFR: 11, 3B: 2, AF: 2.8, Hands: 616
      Seat 6: Hero ( €12.84 EUR ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 21, 3B: 8, AF: 3.1, Hands: 80540


      Prima, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      MP: $9.85 (98.5 bb)
      CO: $11.30 (113 bb)
      BTN: $8.74 (87.4 bb)
      SB: $7.79 (77.9 bb)
      BB: $10.20 (102 bb)
      Hero (UTG): $12.84 (128.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q Q
      Hero raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, 4 folds

      Flop: ($0.75) 6 5 9 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.55, MP calls $0.55

      Turn: ($1.85) 9 (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP bets $0.90, Hero calls $0.90

      River: ($3.65) J (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP bets $1.70, Hero calls $1.70
  • 5 replies
    • kymupa
      kymupa
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      Hello,

      Preflop raising is fine.

      You could go for $0.65 on the flop here.

      I don't really like check/calling the turn. By checking we give him the chance to check back his weaker hands and only bet his better and we put ourselves into a tough spot on both turn and river.
      I actually prefer betting myself here like $1.2-$1.3 and reevaluating the river.

      As played on the turn, I'd check/fold the river.

      Best,
      Plamen
    • gxtwo
      gxtwo
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      Originally posted by kymupa
      As played on the turn, I'd check/fold the river.

      Best,
      Plamen
      how do you get to the conclusion of x/f river?
      sorry if you don't understand my question, i mean how do you break down his range to believe we are beat?
    • kymupa
      kymupa
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      Really good question here, and I'm glad you asked.

      So lets see what kind of hands he bets on the turn - he obviously bets good made hands like 9x/87/55/66, some weaker made hands such as TT/78/76/88/77/JJ and he might have some floats here as well with something like a gutshot.
      So on the river he is given the chance to take a free showdown and on these stakes I really don't think people would intentionally turn a made hand into a bluff and I expect him to just check back his weaker made hands and he's only left here with the floats and the good made hands.
      So given the fact that we don't know anything about villain here, I really don't think we will be good 1 out of 4 times here, and also his bet sizing doesn't really looks like a bluff.

      Is everything clear now or you have some other questions?
    • gxtwo
      gxtwo
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      yeah makes sense, especially when he can have free SD.

      I took his bet sizing as the opposite. i checked the turn to induce, which is super dumb now i think of it. :f_mad: but when he only bets 1/2 pot i take it as a cheap bluff and just call down.

      If we bet turn ~1.2 how to we play river? just check fold it? I find it hard to fold the overpair but i guess when you break down his range like that its a fold.
    • kymupa
      kymupa
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      If you bet the turn yourself here I think check/folding the river will be fine, unless we hit Q of course.

      As in our case, if we bet the turn and check the river he'd have a chance to just take a free SD with his weaker hands and don't expect him to bet them.

      Betting the river might also be took into consideration, but only if we knew something about the opponent and a blank river hits.