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[NL2-NL10] nut straight, how to get most value

    • Imimba1
      Imimba1
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.12.2011 Posts: 2,897
      Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2035473
      DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

      BB: $5.46 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 19, 3B: 7, AF: 3.0, Hands: 93
      UTG: $5.35 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: 1.8, Hands: 125
      MP: $13.04 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 12, 3B: 2, AF: 2.6, Hands: 366
      CO: $5.19 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 16, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 38
      BTN: $8.94 - VPIP: 50, PFR: 30, 3B: 7, AF: 2.0, Hands: 278 BU open:36%, WTS:26, CB:57
      Hero (SB): $5.25 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 4, AF: 2.0, Hands: 68570

      Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with J :heart: Q :diamond:
      3 folds, BTN raises to $0.10, Hero calls $0.08, 1 fold

      Flop: ($0.25) 6 :spade: T :spade: 8 :diamond: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN checks

      Turn: ($0.25) 9 :diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.16, BTN raises to $0.45, Hero raises to $1.59, BTN calls $1.14 The origional bet should have been something like 0.2$

      River: ($3.43) 2 :diamond: (2 players)
      Hero?
      One thing is certain, I will not fold this hand. So I'm going broke against flushes anyway, so lets take a look at the other hands.
      If he has 7x, he's going to call a push. If he has something like 2p, he may only call a 50% bet. Ah, these loose players would call a push I think with 2p.
  • 5 replies
    • Th334
      Th334
      Bronze
      Joined: 26.11.2012 Posts: 971
      Hi there,

      Aren't we calling to loose OOP against a loose opponent?

      Ah, these loose players would call a push I think with 2p.

      That's the point :s_biggrin:

      See why it sucks even when you hit (which is a rare event)? Position, position.
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi Imimba,

      Preflop: Despite him being loose I still think our hand is ok to play (considering the min raise). Definitely not the greatest hand but against 36% open we should still be fine. Of course if we are in doubt about how we play postflop we can simply fold it.

      Postflop: As played pot that turn and get the money in if possible (probably can raise bigger since we need to set up the rivers for a comfortable shove that's farther away from a PSB).

      Alternatively, considering how drawy the board is and that half the deck (roughly) brings in an ugly card for us we can also overbet 3-bet shove that turn. We may lose value from some 1p+weakdraw but a 7x rarely ever folds and then he may call pair+stronger draw.

      As played I'd ship river too but I would of preferred a bigger turn raise and then on the river we had a smaller push which may get called more often.
    • Imimba1
      Imimba1
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.12.2011 Posts: 2,897
      Originally posted by BogdanPS
      Hi Imimba,

      Preflop: Despite him being loose I still think our hand is ok to play (considering the min raise). Definitely not the greatest hand but against 36% open we should still be fine. Of course if we are in doubt about how we play postflop we can simply fold it.

      Postflop: As played pot that turn and get the money in if possible (probably can raise bigger since we need to set up the rivers for a comfortable shove that's farther away from a PSB).

      Alternatively, considering how drawy the board is and that half the deck (roughly) brings in an ugly card for us we can also overbet 3-bet shove that turn. We may lose value from some 1p+weakdraw but a 7x rarely ever folds and then he may call pair+stronger draw.

      As played I'd ship river too but I would of preferred a bigger turn raise and then on the river we had a smaller push which may get called more often.
      yeah, double your bet size, double your winrate :f_cool:
    • Imimba1
      Imimba1
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.12.2011 Posts: 2,897
      Originally posted by Imimba1
      Originally posted by BogdanPS
      Hi Imimba,

      Preflop: Despite him being loose I still think our hand is ok to play (considering the min raise). Definitely not the greatest hand but against 36% open we should still be fine. Of course if we are in doubt about how we play postflop we can simply fold it.

      Postflop: As played pot that turn and get the money in if possible (probably can raise bigger since we need to set up the rivers for a comfortable shove that's farther away from a PSB).

      Alternatively, considering how drawy the board is and that half the deck (roughly) brings in an ugly card for us we can also overbet 3-bet shove that turn. We may lose value from some 1p+weakdraw but a 7x rarely ever folds and then he may call pair+stronger draw.

      As played I'd ship river too but I would of preferred a bigger turn raise and then on the river we had a smaller push which may get called more often.
      yeah, double your bet size, double your winrate :f_cool:
      al in all: bigger turnbet
    • Imimba1
      Imimba1
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.12.2011 Posts: 2,897
      Originally posted by BogdanPS
      Hi Imimba,

      Preflop: Despite him being loose I still think our hand is ok to play (considering the min raise). Definitely not the greatest hand but against 36% open we should still be fine. Of course if we are in doubt about how we play postflop we can simply fold it.

      Postflop: As played pot that turn and get the money in if possible (probably can raise bigger since we need to set up the rivers for a comfortable shove that's farther away from a PSB).

      Alternatively, considering how drawy the board is and that half the deck (roughly) brings in an ugly card for us we can also overbet 3-bet shove that turn. We may lose value from some 1p+weakdraw but a 7x rarely ever folds and then he may call pair+stronger draw.

      As played I'd ship river too but I would of preferred a bigger turn raise and then on the river we had a smaller push which may get called more often.
      +1