[NL2-NL10] 9Ts bb monster draw

    • w4terman
      w4terman
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.04.2011 Posts: 757
      Party, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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      CO: $10.40 (104 bb)
      UTG+2: $3.64 (36.4 bb)
      MP1: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
      SB: $9.50 (95 bb)
      UTG+1: $17.15 (171.5 bb)
      MP3: $12.29 (122.9 bb)
      MP2: $18 (180 bb)
      BTN: $10 (100 bb)
      Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 T
      UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $0.30, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.30, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.20

      Flop: ($0.95) 7 K 8 (3 players)
      Hero bets $0.40, UTG+2 raises to $0.80, MP2 calls $0.80, Hero raises to $3, UTG+2 raises to $3.34 and is all-in, MP2 raises to $17.70 and is all-in, Hero calls $6.70 and is all-in

      Turn: ($23.69) 5 (3 players, 3 are all-in)
      River: ($23.69) A (3 players, 3 are all-in)

      Results:
      $23.69 pot ($1 rake)
      Final Board: 7 K 8 5 A
      UTG+2 showed K K and won $10.43 ($6.79 net)
      MP2 showed 8 8 and won $12.26 ($2.26 net)
      Hero showed 9 T and lost (-$10 net)


      preflop i could fold but calling is not that bad i guess

      on the flop i donk to build a pot and i dont have a problem if i get raised cause i have a lot of equity even vs sets here! when i got minraised and the other one calls i am ready push... what do you think about the hand ?
  • 5 replies
    • zumpar
      zumpar
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      Joined: 05.02.2012 Posts: 1,185
      dont like the flop donk, if u get it on the flop, ur pretty much always against a set/overplayed AA(AK)/bigger FD(A8hh, maybe some nf draws if he is loose) - against that range u got like 45% i guess maximum....

      sure, you have a monster draw, but if u donk, all air is folding, stuff like AK is probably calling 3 barrels unless a hearth hits, in which case ur not getting payed/even if u hit a hearth ur not really sure ur great....

      id reather c/r flop and go from there
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi W4terman,

      Preflop: Considering how short UTG+2 is and how our hand needs some implied odds OOP vs two I'd just fold

      Postflop: As played we have a ton of equity with the double draw however we aren't a huge favorite by any means.

      As a homework, if you have time, equilab this hand and see how you stand equity wise.
    • w4terman
      w4terman
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      Joined: 04.04.2011 Posts: 757
      well here it is!

      vs a set i have 40% equity
      vs top pair i have 57%
      vs 2 pair 51%
      vs the nut flush draw 34%
      vs overpair 52%
      vs the villians hands 44%

      so the worse senario is if someone has the nut flush draw
      vs all other hands i am doing great :)

      which line you think is the best here in a multiway pot OP ?
      check / call flop check / call turn ist to passive for my hand ?
    • w4terman
      w4terman
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      Joined: 04.04.2011 Posts: 757
      "Advise the judge of taking another look at this thread"
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by w4terman
      well here it is!

      vs a set i have 40% equity
      vs top pair i have 57%
      vs 2 pair 51%
      vs the nut flush draw 34%
      vs overpair 52%
      vs the villians hands 44%

      so the worse senario is if someone has the nut flush draw
      vs all other hands i am doing great :)

      which line you think is the best here in a multiway pot OP ?
      check / call flop check / call turn ist to passive for my hand ?
      Hey w4terman,

      I wouldn't mind a ck/raise to increase some of our fold equity even if just against some made hands/Ax (which are better than us atm).

      If we donk I'd make it larger unless the small bet can induce a lot of raises that would fold to our 3-bet.