[NL20-NL50] turn bet size

    • daisuke3823
      daisuke3823
      Bronze
      Joined: 05.02.2008 Posts: 8,321
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      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      BU:
      $32.41
      SB:
      $35.23
      BB:
      $16.95
      MP2 (Hero):
      $30.58
      MP3:
      $25.00
      CO:
      $27.65


      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, J.
      Hero raises to $0.75, MP3 folds, CO calls $0.75, BU folds, SB calls $0.65, BB folds.

      Flop: ($2.5) 5, T, J (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1.60, CO folds, SB calls $1.60.

      Turn: ($5.7) A (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $3.60, SB raises to $10.00, Hero folds, SB gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $9.3.
      his stats in 21 hands vpip19 pfr10 af0,5
      turn bet should be around 50~55% of the pot?
  • 4 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi Daisuke,

      Preflop/flop: looks fine

      Turn: Bet size on the turn vs unknown depends on what we want to get value from. Do we want to increase the chance that he still calls Jx or do we want to go for value more against his NFDs (that pick up TP) and QTdd, KTdd type hands?

      I personally feel that I would like a bigger bet here of around $4+ to get value max value from NFDs and pair+draw (even JQ/JK have pair plus gutshot now).
    • daisuke3823
      daisuke3823
      Bronze
      Joined: 05.02.2008 Posts: 8,321
      Originally posted by BogdanPS
      Hi Daisuke,

      Preflop/flop: looks fine

      Turn: Bet size on the turn vs unknown depends on what we want to get value from. Do we want to increase the chance that he still calls Jx or do we want to go for value more against his NFDs (that pick up TP) and QTdd, KTdd type hands?

      I personally feel that I would like a bigger bet here of around $4+ to get value max value from NFDs and pair+draw (even JQ/JK have pair plus gutshot now).
      I have a question.
      if I value bet around 70%~75% of the pot as you say,
      I have to bluff CB about 70%~75% of the pot?
      because if I change the size of the value bet and bluff ,they may read me so I am betting the same amount .
    • daisuke3823
      daisuke3823
      Bronze
      Joined: 05.02.2008 Posts: 8,321
      I have a question.
      if I value bet around 70%~75% of the pot as you say,
      I have to bluff CB about 70%~75% of the pot?
      because if I change the size of the value bet and bluff ,they may read me so I am betting the same amount .
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by daisuke3823
      I have a question.
      if I value bet around 70%~75% of the pot as you say,
      I have to bluff CB about 70%~75% of the pot?
      because if I change the size of the value bet and bluff ,they may read me so I am betting the same amount .
      On wet boards we should bet bigger as a default with all of our range for the main reason that we bluff less and valuebet more which means our range is stronger on average.

      Against people that you haven't played many hands with they won't really know if your bigger bet is value or semibluff/bluff or both.

      If this flop was J73r our bet size would be smaller (around 1/2 pot).