[NL2-NL10] a couple of hands

    • Rahica
      Rahica
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      Joined: 21.06.2011 Posts: 149
      Hi ! I had a 3k hands session on PS Zoom in Nl5 and I ended up losing 3bb/100. In the first 1.5k hands I was up about 40bb/100 and after I just went down and down and down and I'm kinda tired of this happening :) ... Please, a little help with my mistakes !


      #1

      Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BTN: $5.47 (109.4 bb)
      Hero (SB): $7.47 (149.4 bb)
      BB: $2.61 (52.2 bb)
      UTG+1: $8.02 (160.4 bb)
      UTG+2: $6.23 (124.6 bb)
      MP1: $2.20 (44 bb)
      MP2: $2.90 (58 bb)
      MP3: $2.99 (59.8 bb)
      CO: $12.05 (241 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with K:spade: K:heart:
      5 folds, CO raises to $0.15, BTN folds, Hero raises to $0.50, BB folds, CO raises to $1.20, Hero raises to $7.47 and is all-in, CO calls $6.27

      Flop: ($14.99) T:club: T:spade: 2:club: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      Turn: ($14.99) 9:diamond: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($14.99) 8:spade: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results:
      $14.99 pot ($0.62 rake)
      Final Board: T:club: T:spade: 2:club: 9:diamond: 8:spade:
      Hero showed K:spade: K:heart: and lost (-$7.47 net)
      CO showed A:spade: A:diamond: and won $14.37 ($6.90 net)


      I saw that generally, even people who are playing in NL5, when they 4bet, they have AA or KK. I knew that he had AA and I was thinking about folding, but every book in the world says not to fold AA or KK preflop, so I ended up shoving and losing. I just want to know if it's wrong to fold KK in this situation, when you get 4bet by a guy who is labeled as a "ROCK" by Holdem Manager 2...


      #2


      Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      Hero (BTN): $12.99 (259.8 bb)
      SB: $9.53 (190.6 bb)
      BB: $5.99 (119.8 bb)
      UTG+1: $6.41 (128.2 bb)
      UTG+2: $4.37 (87.4 bb)
      MP1: $5 (100 bb)
      MP2: $5.39 (107.8 bb)
      MP3: $2.02 (40.4 bb)
      CO: $7.55 (151 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with K:club: A:club:
      UTG+1 raises to $0.15, 5 folds, Hero raises to $0.45, SB calls $0.43, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $0.30

      Flop: ($1.40) 8:spade: A:diamond: 6:heart: (3 players)
      SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $1.10, SB folds, UTG+1 calls $1.10

      Turn: ($3.60) A:heart: (2 players)
      UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $1.95, UTG+1 calls $1.95

      River: ($7.50) 5:spade: (2 players)
      UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $4.25, UTG+1 calls $2.91 and is all-in

      Results:
      $13.32 pot ($0.55 rake)
      Final Board: 8:spade: A:diamond: 6:heart: A:heart: 5:spade:
      Hero showed K:club: A:club: and won $0.00 (-$6.41 net)
      UTG+1 showed 6:club: 6:spade: and won $12.77 ($6.36 net)



      #3

      Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BTN: $5.25 (105 bb)
      SB: $1.63 (32.6 bb)
      Hero (BB): $5.07 (101.4 bb)
      UTG+1: $5.32 (106.4 bb)
      UTG+2: $6.43 (128.6 bb)
      MP1: $5.16 (103.2 bb)
      MP2: $2.63 (52.6 bb)
      MP3: $6.89 (137.8 bb)
      CO: $6.78 (135.6 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q:spade: A:heart:
      4 folds, MP3 calls $0.05, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero raises to $0.25, MP3 calls $0.20, SB folds

      Flop: ($0.55) 6:heart: T:heart: 7:heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.40, MP3 raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4.82 and is all-in, MP3 calls $3.32

      Turn: ($10.19) 9:club: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($10.19) 7:spade: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results:
      $10.19 pot ($0.42 rake)
      Final Board: 6:heart: T:heart: 7:heart: 9:club: 7:spade:
      Hero showed Q:spade: A:heart: and lost (-$5.07 net)
      MP3 showed 3:heart: 2:heart: and won $9.77 ($4.70 net)



      Thank you for your help !
  • 3 replies
    • kymupa
      kymupa
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      Joined: 22.10.2009 Posts: 22,364
      Hello,

      First I want to ask you to post only one hand in a single thread.

      #1

      Make a bigger 3bet preflop - $0.65-$0.7 since we are OOP and we are deep.
      I think if you provide some stats it would be helpful, but I don't mind shoving KK here preflop.
      Of course, if you think he is only 4betting KK+ folding is the best option.



      #2

      Preflop I'd make it $0.5.

      Postflop looks good and I'd play the same way. There's nothing else we can do here.




      #3

      Preflop I'd make it $0.3.

      Flop seems good to me. We have nut flush draw and two overcards so stacking off is fine.

      Best,
      Plamen
    • Rahica
      Rahica
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      Joined: 21.06.2011 Posts: 149
      Sorry about posting more hands in a single thread! I won't do it again.

      As for the hands, the three of them are well played as I understand.

      Am I betting less than normal? When I open from the UTG I open with 4x the blind and from all the other positions, I raise 3xbb. For the 3bets, I usually bet pot ( just like in pot limit games ), or, if I'm OOP, I add a couple of blinds ( not more than 3bb ).

      Thank you Plamen !
    • kymupa
      kymupa
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      Joined: 22.10.2009 Posts: 22,364
      Well, I usually tend to make bigger 3bets preflop since people on these limits tend to call more, so I like to make the pot bigger.
      So, if he raises to 3bb and I'm IP I usually make it 10bb, and if I'm OOP I make it 11bb.
      Of course there are some other factors that can make you go for a bigger sizing - for example, bigger effective stack, opponent tends to call more etc.