[NL20-NL50] A8s pair+FD turn and river?

    • AchillesBG
      Joined: 06.02.2011 Posts: 4,561
      Prima, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      Hero (BB): $28.08 (140.4 bb)
      UTG: $29.18 (145.9 bb)
      MP: $12.85 (64.3 bb)
      CO: $21.46 (107.3 bb)
      BTN: $20 (100 bb)
      SB: $29.96 (149.8 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 8 A
      UTG calls $0.20, 4 folds, Hero raises to $1, UTG calls $0.80

      Flop: ($2.10) J 5 8 (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.40, UTG calls $1.40

      Turn: ($4.90) K (2 players)
      Hero checks, UTG bets $4.90, Hero calls $4.90

      River: ($14.70) 2 (2 players)
      Hero checks, UTG bets $18, Hero calls $18

      $50.70 pot ($2.53 rake)
      Final Board: J 5 8 K 2
      Hero mucked 8 A and lost (-$25.30 net)
      UTG showed 3 K and won $48.17 ($22.87 net)

      Anonimus table. I didn`t wrote down the exact stats, but it was some kind of aggro fish. 40/15 over 70 hands or smth like that, aggresive postflop.

      Preflop? Perhaps i should tighten my range OOP vs aggresive villain?

      I think the flop bet is ok.He snap called my bet, so i think he doesn`t have monster hands like sets/2 pairs often.

      On the turn, decided to go for ch/c since the value is a bit thin. I wasn`t very happy when he pot bet the turn, but decided to stick with my plan to ch/c.

      On the river all draws miss and i thought this is polaraized bet and i can call when all the draws missed, despite that i block a lot of FD?

      MP2 73.33% 73.33% 0.00% As8s
      MP3 26.67% 26.67% 0.00% 88, 55, KJs, K8s, K5s, Q5s, T9s, 76s, QsTs, Qs9s, Qs7s, Ts7s, 9s7s, Qs6s, Qs4s, Qs3s, Qs2s, KJo, T9o, 76o

      I posted the result on purpose, because a lot of the fishes are not polarized in this spots and just bet ANY hand they have for no good reason. Since i play mostly anonimous tables, i can`t write a note and lately i have no idea how to play this spots. In this case he will bet any Jx or Kx like that and my line is massivly -EV...
  • 1 reply
    • BogdanPS
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi Achilles,

      The one thing I always want to pay attention for, when playing an aggro fish, is what they bet with and how. For example do they valuebet thin with larger bets or do they have bet sizing tells?

      Since we've played 70 hands together we should have some of this info already because he's most likely went to show down at least a few times.

      By default, if we don't know this information I'd find it hard to call that river because, unless he calls flop with random cards and then bets two streets, there aren't many hands we beat.
      And then of course there's the chance of him making a thin bet with a made hand like this Kx or Jx.

      So for me that river, without any information other than he is aggro, would be a ck/fold.