HUD for MTTSNG

  • 8 replies
    • Asaban
      Asaban
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      Which tracking program are you using?
      I use HM2 and the standard HUD for tournaments is absolutely sufficient.
      I only added one or two additional stats (for example tourney M).

      If you have questions regarding the different stats feel free to ask :)

      Regards,
      Asaban
    • kolacar
      kolacar
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      Joined: 15.05.2010 Posts: 144
      I am also using HEM2.
      I found some configurations on forums and this one looks best IMO.

      Name/Hands/BB
      VPIP/PFR/AQF
      3bet/foldto3bet/steal/foldtoresteal
      FlopCbet/foldtoflopcbet/overall CR.

      Is there anything I should add?
      What would be some ranges for steal/fold2resteal?
    • Asaban
      Asaban
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      I would add TourneyM instead of BB. You may find further information on the M factor in this article:
      http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/mtt/1557/1/

      The rest of the stats look pretty standard.
      I am not sure what AQF is - is it AggressionFactor?

      In the end I am not sure if it is the best idea to have a 4-line HUD. Mine has 3 lines and I already have problems to locate it without covering stacksizes/players cards/total potsize/the Button/Timebank option or anything else that is crucial.

      I obviously use most of the stats you mention - but you won't need them very often and therefore it is sufficient to have them in your popups. The only important stats that you should always have in sight are

      Name/Hands/M
      VPIP/PFR/3bet

      If you want to have a slightly better overview without looking at the popup every few hands you may want to go with this:

      Name/Hands/M
      VPIP/PFR/3bet/f23bet
      cbet/f2cbet/ maybe aggfactor

      Everything else isn't needed in most situations or you will have no sufficient samplesize for most players. Especially the steal and fold2resteal stats are kinda risky since they can be totally wrong without a very large number of hands. Even then it might vary depending on your opponents' chipstack.

      Regards,
      Asaban
    • Targetme
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      I dont use one but I plan to do one and I would take out all postflop stats kinda useless never gonna get a sample and add some pretty advanced stuff not even sure what hem could do. Utg raise and bvb / button stats and push when folded to would be top of my list. I think the push when folded to stat would be most important and give you alot of info on there ranges especially if you can edit it to push when at 10bb or under when folded to. Knowing when to call with k7o vs any 2 ranges is really how you crush these games
    • SNGMentors
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      IMO you have too much info there. Tournament M or BBs should be apparent and not need. Plus M is IMO antiquated especially in turbos but if you are used to it, I guess it is fine. You shouldn't need Name, I mean the name is right there in front of you.

      Mine is simply #hands in blue, VPIP, PFR, Total aggression on the top row. Second row, folds to steals, steals, 3bets, folds to 3bets. All nicely color coded from red to green. You shouldn't need much more info than this.

      I have made videos on huds and how to use them, but alas they aren't publicly viewable.
    • Asaban
      Asaban
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      Why do you think that the tourney M is antiquated? I honestly don't think so. It's the ideal way to count your stack and compare it to others. If you play one table it might not be needed. As soon as you play more tables it will get hard to have an overview over all stacksizes and the tourney M/trueBB will help you to stay informed.

      The name is absolutely necessary imo. You have to know if the stats that you are looking at are reffering to the player that they are displayed on. The HUD might get scrumbled around at one point or a player left the table while a new one joined. In these situations the name is very important so you can see if the stats refer to the player.

      The rest of your HUD is quite similar to mine (you prefer steal stats where I prefer cbet stats). So I guess we share the same views on the most parts.

      Regards,
      Asaban
    • SNGMentors
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      If your hud is getting scrambled around you are doing it wrong. Once you set it up it should be locked. But I guess if you want to pollute your screen with superfluous information that is fine.

      As to M or BB I have mass tabled a long time, if I don't know my # of BBs I shouldn't cut back on my tables until I do. In a MTT structure, BB is just more relevant, you just don't want to get below 10, if you do you are doing something wrong. If you find yourself consistently under 10 or even 15bb you have a leak in your game that needs to be addressed. Personally I never used M, but I guess if it is set in your thinking it is the same thing whatever the equivalent is, but it is a hell of a lot easier to glance at the BB and multiply by 10 than figuring out your M for a beginner.

      Like the HUD, keeping it simple is a logical way of teaching.
    • Asaban
      Asaban
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      First of all thank you for your explanation. I like discussing things like this. Maybe I am able to enlight some things that stayed unclear otherwise.

      Well, playing 6+ sites at the same time, mixing 4max, 6max, 9max and 10max tables, it is not uncommon to have your HUD mixed up. Sure, it shouldn't happen, but it does. Furthermore there is the problem of new players entering the table while the stats of the former player are still displayed. No way to find this out without having the name displayed.

      Regarding the M factor: Yes - it's basically the same as BB. Problem with BB is that this isn't weigthed and therefore not very exact (unless you use trueBB which is basically the same as using M). Playing an ante up tournament for example it won't help you to count your BB. The M factor is always valid - no matter what structure it has. Therefore it is by far more valuable. If anything, counting in BB's is antiquated imo.

      Users may find further information on the M factor in this article:
      http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/mtt/1557/1/

      Unfortunately it won't be available for you since you don't have the relevant status (silver). Maybe it helps someone else.

      Regards,
      Asaban