[NL20-NL50] NL50 FR - 66 on MP1

    • AtrociousNightmare
      AtrociousNightmare
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      Joined: 14.04.2010 Posts: 1,185
      Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BB: $31.77 (63.5 bb)
      Hero (MP1): $52.71 (105.4 bb)
      MP2: $28.66 (57.3 bb)
      MP3: $50 (100 bb)
      CO: $72.75 (145.5 bb)
      BTN: $52.92 (105.8 bb)
      SB: $62.17 (124.3 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 6 6
      Hero raises to $1.75, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $1.75, CO folds, BTN calls $1.75, 2 folds

      Flop: ($6) T 8 6 (3 players)
      Hero bets $4.53, MP3 folds, BTN calls $4.53

      Turn: ($15.06) 9 (2 players)
      Hero bets $10.68, BTN calls $10.68

      River: ($36.42) 2 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $18.50, Hero folds

      Results:
      $36.42 pot ($2 rake)
      Final Board: T 8 6 9 2
      Hero mucked 6 6 and lost (-$16.96 net)
      BTN mucked and won $34.42 ($17.46 net)

      Stats: VPIP: 25, PFR: 7, 3B: 3, AF: 2,5, Hands: 904
      WTSD: 20
      W$SD: only 38, but excluding small pots 54
      River Donk: 33 (6)
      River Bet vs Missed CBet: 56 (9)

      This one has been a tough fold.
      I still wonder if it was right.
  • 4 replies
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,897
      Why do you bet turn? What's his range after calling the turn? How does he split that range on the river between bets and checks?
    • AtrociousNightmare
      AtrociousNightmare
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      Originally posted by EmanuelC16
      Why do you bet turn? What's his range after calling the turn? How does he split that range on the river between bets and checks?
      Well thinking about it now it doesn't make much of a sense.
      If he had a draw it closed.
      If he had a worse hand like TwoPair or AT I'd probably make it fold.
      So yeah, pointless turn bet.
      I probably unconsciously bet to avoid thinking of what I should do in case he bets after my check, also because he likes to bet on missed CBet, and that's a sweet spot to bluff me out.

      So my question is, I check turn.
      He bets.
      What do I do?
      Do I pay to see if it's a bluff/two pair/TP and XF the river?
      Or I just give up.
      And if he checks behind?
      Do I value bet river?
      What do I have to think about that 3rd suit?
      He can pretty much have ANYTHING by calling BU PF, and even the flop tbh because it's SO connected.
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      You look at pot odds and call with good odds usually. He has a straight a lot but you have outs and implied odds vs that plus he can turn some made hand into bluffs like A8, K8 plus some floats that missed: KQ, KJ.

      If he checks behind, just bluffcatch river as well imo. Value betting COULD be fine but your game seems to need more going to showdown. By this I mean that you have high doubts about how people play hands so you need to see as often as profitably possible how they play and learn from that.
    • AtrociousNightmare
      AtrociousNightmare
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      Originally posted by EmanuelC16
      You look at pot odds and call with good odds usually. He has a straight a lot but you have outs and implied odds vs that plus he can turn some made hand into bluffs like A8, K8 plus some floats that missed: KQ, KJ.

      If he checks behind, just bluffcatch river as well imo. Value betting COULD be fine but your game seems to need more going to showdown. By this I mean that you have high doubts about how people play hands so you need to see as often as profitably possible how they play and learn from that.
      I love you, and it's almost starting to get homo :heart: