[NL20-NL50] NL50 FR - KK on MP1

    • AtrociousNightmare
      AtrociousNightmare
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      Joined: 14.04.2010 Posts: 1,185
      Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
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      BTN: $50 (100 bb)
      SB: $67.80 (135.6 bb)
      BB: $50 (100 bb)
      UTG+2: $77.25 (154.5 bb)
      Hero (MP1): $94.42 (188.8 bb)
      MP2: $46.53 (93.1 bb)
      MP3: $62.41 (124.8 bb)
      CO: $42.44 (84.9 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K K
      UTG+2 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, MP2 calls $1.75, 3 folds, SB raises to $7, BB folds, Hero raises to $17.50, MP2 folds, SB raises to $67.80 and is all-in, Hero calls $50.30

      Flop: ($137.85) 2 4 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      Turn: ($137.85) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($137.85) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results:
      $137.85 pot ($3 rake)
      Final Board: 2 4 9 Q J
      SB showed A A and won $134.85 ($67.05 net)
      Hero mucked K K and lost (-$67.80 net)

      Stats: VPIP: 15, PFR: 10, 3B: 4, AF: 2,7, Hands: 9174
      Squeeze: 3

      And we close today's hands with a pain in the ass.
      So I decide to 4Bet his squeeze, almost sure he would fold, but he goes all-in, and he's deeper than 100BB.
      Sure it's no 150BB+, but he's deeper. And sadly I didn't notice it (big attention mistake) when I 4Bet (I thought the only other deep guy was UTG+2)
      At this point I'm in trouble.
      Does he really do that ONLY with KK/AA?
      If I add AKs to that range it's a close call mathematically speaking.
      If I add QQ we r happier but I don't really think he does that with QQ.
      Also he went straight all-in and didn't really 5Bet, as opposed as one might think in case he holds AA.

      In the doubt, I reminded the basics in theory telling me never to fold KK in life, and so I didn't.
      To my much dismay.
  • 3 replies
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,897
      You have almost 10k hands on him. You should reaaally know his game inside out!

      As played, I'd just call 3bet and play postflop. I can't imagine FR got aggressive enough that people will give you value when you 4bet this from MP1, especially not someone with 4% 3bet.
    • AtrociousNightmare
      AtrociousNightmare
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      Joined: 14.04.2010 Posts: 1,185
      Originally posted by EmanuelC16
      You have almost 10k hands on him. You should reaaally know his game inside out!

      As played, I'd just call 3bet and play postflop. I can't imagine FR got aggressive enough that people will give you value when you 4bet this from MP1, especially not someone with 4% 3bet.
      Not really these kind of situations happen so rarely and are so unique that I don't quite know it.

      I thought about calling the 3Bet too but how do I play it out Postflop?
      I mean I give up on aces and I pot control any other case?
      I guess so right.
      kind of hard to pot control such a high flop pot tho.
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,897
      Well, you see how tight he is in other situations. He won't go crazy here if in general he is very tight for example. If he does, good for him, he is using his image, nothing we can do!

      With regards to calling preflop, yes.. that's the idea for postflop.. your hand is medium to good preflop, you play the same postflop unless it improves. Ranges and equity! I will probably repeat this in every post! :D