Whiners United

    • Varune
      Varune
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      Joined: 24.04.2009 Posts: 5,068

      Greetings strangers and welcome to this collective effort from the Dutch Skype group Whiners United.
      Who are W.U.?

      We’re young Dutch speaking folk that play poker a lot, but do it as an aside (or so some of us kid themselves). We mostly grind 6max small stakes, so that means mostly around 100nl, sometimes higher than that and sometimes lower.

      Posters from W.U. are: Oereuh, Varune, Oscaar10, kalakaja, luca02, Rogier

      What? And why?

      We will strive to just post cool shit and can hopefully engage in some interesting discussions on the English side of PS. Aside from that we’re also interested in writing more in English and doing that well, so grammar Nazi’s are welcome!
  • 46 replies
    • Horroroids
      Horroroids
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      Joined: 07.04.2010 Posts: 1,479
      In before first whine!
    • oscaar10
      oscaar10
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      Joined: 14.01.2011 Posts: 5,453
      Originally posted by Oereuh
      In before first whine!
      hello everybody,

      may I introduce you, the proud winner of the Mike Matusow- award 2011 for the most solid whiner of W.U. ...

      Oereuh



      PS, We will try to keep this thread a whine-free zone :)
    • Horroroids
      Horroroids
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      Joined: 07.04.2010 Posts: 1,479
      Because you just dont fold a royal draw... Badregs at it

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.5/$1 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

      Known players:
      MP3:
      $126.40
      CO:
      $100.00
      BU:
      $106.30
      SB:
      $296.37
      BB (Hero):
      $100.00


      Preflop: Hero is BB with 6, A.
      MP3 folds, CO raises to $3.00, BU folds, SB calls $2.50, Hero raises to $12.00, CO calls $9.00, SB calls $9.00.

      Flop: ($36) T, A, 6 (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $19.00, CO calls $19.00, SB folds.

      Turn: ($74) 7 (2 players)
      Hero bets $69.00, CO calls $69.00(All-In).

      River: ($212) 8 (2 players)


      Final Pot: $212.
      Results follow:

      Hero shows two pairs, aces and sixes(6 A).
      CO shows high card ace(Q J).

      Hero wins with two pairs, aces and sixes(6 A).
    • luca02
      luca02
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      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 3,180
      Hello to everybody!

      I hope we will be interesting enough to get a lot of followers. :f_biggrin:
      Hope to have some good hand/strategy discussions and hopefully i (and the rest obv.) will beat the small stakes in the next year.

      And a nice thread starter:

    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
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      Joined: 27.12.2010 Posts: 14,640
      Subbed.
    • UPAY4DINNER
      UPAY4DINNER
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      Joined: 27.09.2009 Posts: 21,921
      Welcome to the EN Community guys!

      Subbed!
    • luca02
      luca02
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      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 3,180
      <<--- Yeah 1st time diamond. :D
    • DeLau
      DeLau
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      Joined: 10.01.2009 Posts: 1,606
      GL guys, will be following!
    • kalakaja
      kalakaja
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      Joined: 12.03.2011 Posts: 624
      Have no fear, the guy with gold status is here!

      Decided recently i like HU more than 6max

      Hero (SB): $216.50
      BB: $114.96

      Hero posts SB $1.00, BB posts BB $2.00

      Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) Hero has A:club: J:diamond:

      Hero raises to $4.00, BB raises to $8.00, Hero raises to $20.00, BB calls $12.00

      Flop: ($40.00, 2 players) 3:heart: 2:heart: 7:spade:
      BB bets $94.96 and is all-in, Hero calls $94.96

      Turn: ($229.92, 2 players) 2:spade:

      River: ($229.92, 2 players) K:diamond:

      BB shows 6:club: A:spade: (One Pair, Twos) (Pre 27%, Flop 15%, Turn 14%)
      Hero shows A:club: J:diamond: (One Pair, Twos) (Pre 73%, Flop 85%, Turn 86%)
      Hero wins $229.42
    • ThatGuyMatt
      ThatGuyMatt
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      Joined: 03.12.2010 Posts: 3,758
      Originally posted by luca02
      <<--- Yeah 1st time diamond. :D
    • crashyy
      crashyy
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      Joined: 07.12.2010 Posts: 111
      Subbed simply cause Gemma is in here lol :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:
    • kalakaja
      kalakaja
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      Joined: 12.03.2011 Posts: 624
      Pretty confusing spot, villain is unknown but feels like a fish and was 1, maybe 2-tabling zoom

      PokerStars - $1 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players

      BTN: $109.75
      SB: $184.94
      Hero (BB): $134.72
      UTG: $85.20
      MP: $121.94
      CO: $103.75

      SB posts SB $0.50, Hero posts BB $1.00

      Pre Flop: (pot: $1.50) Hero has A:spade: 3:heart:

      fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $3.00, Hero calls $2.00

      Flop: ($6.00, 2 players) 4:club: 9:spade: A:diamond:
      SB bets $5.00, Hero calls $5.00

      Turn: ($16.00, 2 players) 3:spade:
      SB bets $7.00, Hero raises to $25.00, SB calls $18.00

      River: ($66.00, 2 players) T:spade:
      SB bets $36.00
    • Varune
      Varune
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      Joined: 24.04.2009 Posts: 5,068
      Betsizings tell me he's a fish aswell. If he's a reg you should go through ur database to make sizing reads. :)

      As played it looks like:
      Flop a pure bluff,
      Turn Semibluff,
      River hit flush.

      So a fold shouldn't be too bad.
    • Varune
      Varune
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      Joined: 24.04.2009 Posts: 5,068
      Hand vs a weakreg.
      I wasn't that active in 3betting pre, so my 4bet should've gotten alot of respect. Him just calling bends his range more to AK than high PP's. Cuz i see him 5betting PP's to get HU with PP's and not get outdrawn.

      That makes this flop a quite standard cbet for me :)

      Party, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      UTG: $100 (100 bb)
      BB: $157.79 (157.8 bb)
      BTN: $129.55 (129.6 bb)
      Hero (MP): $121.59 (121.6 bb)
      SB: $29 (29 bb)
      CO: $101.50 (101.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with Q T
      UTG folds, Hero raises to $3, CO folds, BTN raises to $8, SB folds, BB calls $7, Hero raises to $22, BTN calls $14, BB folds

      Flop: ($52.50) 6 4 2 (2 players)
      Hero bets $21, BTN folds

      Results:
      $52.50 pot ($2.62 rake)
      Final Board: 6 4 2
      BTN mucked and lost (-$22 net)
      Hero mucked Q T and won $49.88 ($27.88 net)


      Was just a bit sceptical about my 4bet sizing.
    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
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      Joined: 27.12.2010 Posts: 14,640
      Originally posted by Varune
      Betsizings tell me he's a fish aswell. If he's a reg you should go through ur database to make sizing reads. :)

      As played it looks like:
      Flop a pure bluff,
      Turn Semibluff,
      River hit flush.

      So a fold shouldn't be too bad.
      Agree with this!

      What about preflop though? Is it a standard call? I try to avoid those spots (It's almost like you call A4o vs fishy CO open which also doesn't look great). Our hand doesn't flop great and we don't beat any Ax. We can't bluffraise that many flop nor turns knowing he's fishy. This is why I would fold preflop but I'm open for critics to this!
    • Horroroids
      Horroroids
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      Joined: 07.04.2010 Posts: 1,479
      It plays fine IP vs a fish imo.
    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
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      Joined: 27.12.2010 Posts: 14,640
      Originally posted by Oereuh
      It plays fine IP vs a fish imo.
      Vs any fish? Fold vs aggro fish? :P
    • Varune
      Varune
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      Joined: 24.04.2009 Posts: 5,068
      Just dropped 1k in 1 session. Biggest loss session after last weeks badrun.

      Now 15~BI under ev in one week time.
    • oscaar10
      oscaar10
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      Joined: 14.01.2011 Posts: 5,453
      Originally posted by Oereuh
      In before first whine!
      aaaand the winner is...

      Varune