[NL20-NL50] NL20 SH AQ cold 4bet vs fish

    • SPeedFANat1c
      SPeedFANat1c
      Gold
      Joined: 04.01.2009 Posts: 5,073
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      NL Holdem $0.20(BB) Replayer
      SB ($19)
      Hero ($27.67)
      UTG ($20.83)
      UTG+1 ($24.53)
      CO ($33.84)
      BTN ($21.37)

      Dealt to Hero A:diamond: Q:club:

      UTG raises to $0.80, fold, CO raises to $1.60, fold, fold, Hero raises to $3.20, fold, CO calls $1.60

      FLOP ($7.30) A:spade: 7:heart: 4:heart:

      Hero checks, CO bets $3.60, Hero calls $3.60

      TURN ($14.50) A:spade: 7:heart: 4:heart: 3:club:

      Hero checks, CO bets $7.20, Hero calls $7.20

      RIVER ($28.90) A:spade: 7:heart: 4:heart: 3:club: 6:spade:

      Hero bets $13.67 (AI), CO calls $13.67

      UTG: 22/19/3.5, PFR EP 16 (25), f3bet 90, 273 hands

      CO: 73/31/1.3, 3bet 7.7, fcbet 58, 153 hands

      I thought CO can call me with wide range, he should have some 3bet semibluffs. For that reason I do not 4bet too big.

      I think my cbet could look strong after I 4bet, so I did not do that and let him place some bluffs, even when he is not too agro. Some kind of pot control because we are deep.

      BUt on the river I rethink - I will have to call anyway for such odds, so I will pay to his better hands. But at the same time he is checking back worse hands so I bet myself to get value from worse.

      Now I think I probably needed to cbet flop, not much. He should not raise with worse, so if he raises, its easy fold. Because he might also cbh his worse hands, but maybe he is not believeing and calling a cbet with JJ. But then on next street he folds it anyway. So one street of value. DOn't know.
  • 5 replies
    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.12.2010 Posts: 14,640
      4bet for value means you should go 4bet/broke. Vs a fish who's 3betting vs UTG I don't like that. At best I call his 3bet but because he 3bets vs UTG I probably fold AQo preflop.
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,897
      I have no remorse about folding AQo preflop here OOP.

      When you 4bet you are forgetting UTG that can still have a tight range and won't fold regardless of what you do if he has one of the premium hands. You got the absolute best result and there's no way you can fold this hand postflop imo so it's about getting max value.

      Does he bluff and value bet thinly? Is he just a calling station? Answer that and you should already know what actions to take from flop to river.
    • serverm07
      serverm07
      Basic
      Joined: 08.08.2012 Posts: 1,130
      Easiest fold preflop ever. As played I have no idea why you are leading river. Just x/decide.
    • SPeedFANat1c
      SPeedFANat1c
      Gold
      Joined: 04.01.2009 Posts: 5,073
      When you 4bet you are forgetting UTG that can still have a tight range and won't fold regardless of what you do if he has one of the premium hands.


      Yeah, he will not fold premium hands, but he is not having that tight range. Stats show 16%, they might be not good, but I believe 10% might be reasonable. So he should fold to 3bet or 4bet like here.

      Does he bluff and value bet thinly? Is he just a calling station?

      I got the point :)
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      hi.

      fold pre. his 3b isn´t high even though his VPIP and PFR are. if his 3b is something like 15%+ then i think your play could be reasonable