[NL20-NL50] NL50 FR - AQs on BB

    • AtrociousNightmare
      AtrociousNightmare
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.04.2010 Posts: 1,185
      Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      MP3: $53.71 (107.4 bb)
      CO: $73.99 (148 bb)
      BTN: $21.16 (42.3 bb)
      SB: $55.46 (110.9 bb)
      Hero (BB): $60.70 (121.4 bb)
      UTG+2: $94.07 (188.1 bb)
      MP1: $80.76 (161.5 bb)
      MP2: $38.50 (77 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q A
      UTG+2 raises to $1.87, 6 folds, Hero calls $1.37

      Flop: ($3.99) 8 4 A (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.83, UTG+2 calls $2.83

      Turn: ($9.65) K (2 players)
      Hero bets $6.84, UTG+2 calls $6.84

      River: ($23.33) A (2 players)
      Hero bets $14.77, UTG+2 raises to $38, Hero calls $23.23

      Results:
      $99.33 pot ($3 rake)
      Final Board: 8 4 A K A
      Hero mucked Q A and lost (-$49.54 net)
      UTG+2 showed K A and won $96.33 ($46.79 net)

      Stats: VPIP: 46, PFR: 33, 3B: 10, AF: 2,0, Hands: 233

      So this player has been playing TERRIBAD, and btw his WTSD is 40 and W$SD is 30.
      On the flop I donk because he doesn't CBet much and he's also pretty passive, so I was afraid to lose value.
      On the river I value bet and cry call. I called 'cos I thought he might be doing that with lower aces as well.
      Should I have just checked?
      Didn't feel like doing it as he's pretty passive and didn't want to lose value in case of a K or lower aces.
      Can I find a Bet/Fold there given the odds?

      Does the donk make sense at least in this spot?
  • 4 replies
    • AtrociousNightmare
      AtrociousNightmare
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      Joined: 14.04.2010 Posts: 1,185
      Bump? xD
      This got unnoticed xP
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,897
      Heya,

      Since he is basically a calling station, why do you bet so small on the river?

      I would actually add 0.5bb for flop so that you can add 2bb on turn and then bomb river to about 20, maybe a bit less. He is a calling station, I think bet/fold is always our line. I don't think he would bluff river so you need to get the odds against his value range. Do you think you get them?
    • AtrociousNightmare
      AtrociousNightmare
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      Joined: 14.04.2010 Posts: 1,185
      Originally posted by EmanuelC16
      Heya,

      Since he is basically a calling station, why do you bet so small on the river?

      I would actually add 0.5bb for flop so that you can add 2bb on turn and then bomb river to about 20, maybe a bit less. He is a calling station, I think bet/fold is always our line. I don't think he would bluff river so you need to get the odds against his value range. Do you think you get them?
      Sorry didn't get if donk is still the best way on flop or not.

      Also, on the river I really have difficulties to determine his value range.
      Because if it includes any A due to trips, then I think so even without calculating, but without that, no, I wouldn't call.

      In the doubt, with not much time, and with his W$SD at 30, I went for a call, thinking Ax could be in his value range.
    • mbml
      mbml
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      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      I hink ur reasoning for flop lead is fine. If he is terribad he can raise all worse ax for value so u need to call.

      I just think u should consider making a small three bet for thin value if he is so loose and fishy. Make it 2,4x or something similar to keep his pf range wide still.