[NL2-NL10] AQ against fish

    • mlatasrb
      mlatasrb
      Gold
      Joined: 01.04.2012 Posts: 2,720
      PartyGaming - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 140.3 BB
      SB: 100 BB
      Hero (BB): 290.8 BB
      UTG: 169.4 BB
      MP: 101.6 BB
      CO: 677.6 BB

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:diamond: Q:club:

      fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, CO calls 3 BB

      Flop: (8.5 BB, 2 players) 7:club: 5:spade: 8:diamond:
      Hero bets 5 BB, CO calls 5 BB

      Turn: (18.5 BB, 2 players) 8:heart:
      Hero bets 10 BB, CO calls 10 BB

      River: (38.5 BB, 2 players) Q:heart:
      Hero bets 20 BB, CO calls 20 BB

      Hero shows A:diamond: Q:club: (Two Pair, Queens and Eights) (Pre 63%, Flop 24%, Turn 14%)
      CO mucks 2:heart: 7:heart: (Two Pair, Eights and Sevens) (Pre 37%, Flop 76%, Turn 86%)
      Hero wins 74.6 BB


      80 hands, VPiP 80, FCB 44.

      I think turn barrel is not good, because he could have any gutshot, or pair?

      Should I bet/fold river larger?
  • 3 replies
    • Th334
      Th334
      Bronze
      Joined: 26.11.2012 Posts: 971
      From my experience, WTSD is crucial against fish.

      Some fish calls down just about anything, and such fish is not particularly uncommon. Combined with general low aggression, I find it best just to check it down when I miss, and to bet/bet/bet when I hit.

      There's no point in cbetting and barreling, if he's gonna call you down even with 5x here most of the time.
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi mlatasrb,

      Preflop: looks fine

      Postflop: I do not like the turn bet at all versus a fish like him. He rarely ever folds anything better and doesn't call much worse. Plus our equity is poor (6 outs = 12 % at best).

      So simply ck/fold (or ck/call if you think he's floating lots).

      The river bet is crucial here, for value, and I'm happy you made it/ It's a bet fold of course.

      @German: WTSD is useless over such a small sample.
    • Th334
      Th334
      Bronze
      Joined: 26.11.2012 Posts: 971
      @German: WTSD is useless over such a small sample.

      Well, it's useless against good players I would imagine. Here we can multiply the sample size x3, because he plays every single hand postflop :) We just want to know either WTSD is huge, or okay-ish, not the exact value.

      I mostly just watch him playing though, it gets quite obvious after 80 hands, whether he's a calling station or not.