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[NL20-NL50] NL20 SH KK 4bet pot deep

    • SPeedFANat1c
      SPeedFANat1c
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      Joined: 04.01.2009 Posts: 5,150
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.20(BB) Replayer
      SB ($38.59)
      BB ($1.91)
      Hero ($37.89)
      BTN ($21.84)

      Dealt to Hero K:club: K:heart:

      Hero raises to $0.60, fold, SB raises to $1.80, fold, Hero raises to $4.40, SB calls $2.60

      FLOP ($9) T:diamond: J:diamond: 3:diamond:

      SB checks, Hero bets $4.50, SB raises to $12, Hero folds

      SB wins $17.10



      Can he bluff with nut FD? He can have TT, JJ in his range, suited AK so I can be crushed here with my KK :(
  • 4 replies
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,909
      4bet bigger pre. You are deep, OOP..

      Flop is one of the worst for you, only worse would be with Ad instead of one of the other cards. I think you can still get some value so cbetting should be fine but cbet a bit bigger again. 1/2 pot on that board is too small imo. It still remains a bet/fold.
    • SPeedFANat1c
      SPeedFANat1c
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      Joined: 04.01.2009 Posts: 5,150
      4bet bigger pre. You are deep, OOP..


      But then will I get calls from worse? I 4bet small because I want to get calls from hands like AK. If I 4bet bigger - he will 5bet and I will have to fold. If I 4bet big even QQ might fold, because it might not believe its a bluff.

      On flop betting big will also look very strong I think..
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,909
      Originally posted by SPeedFANat1c
      4bet bigger pre. You are deep, OOP..


      If I 4bet bigger - he will 5bet and I will have to fold.
      Why?

      I didn't say cbet big btw, I said bigGER, meaning over half pot in this case..

      You have the same inconsistency in your thinking as most people: betting big will loook strong so I will value bet small. What do people NOT do? Fold! What do people mostly do? Call! Why would you value bet very small then?!
    • SPeedFANat1c
      SPeedFANat1c
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      I was not so sure if they call light in 4bet pots so thats why I thought 4beting bigger will generate too much FE.