[NL20-NL50] NL50sh - Call river vs fishy guy for those odds?

    • Farmarchist
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      Hey all!

      Villain: 50/0/8h 1 tabler = fish.

      Flop/Turn: Enough of value I think

      River: Check/decide seems obv. What would u do vs a bet? Vs this small bet I just call because he could have some missed draws. What would u do vs a bigger bet? That spot would pretty much suck :(

      Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2046759
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      BTN: $64.14
      SB: $52.11
      Hero (BB): $73.30
      UTG: $25.50
      CO: $20.00

      Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 7 :spade: J :club:
      UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero checks

      Flop: ($1.75) 6 :club: J :heart: 9 :spade: (3 players)
      Hero bets $1.25, UTG calls $1.25, BTN folds

      Turn: ($4.25) 4 :diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets $3, UTG calls $3

      River: ($10.25) 9 :heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, UTG bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50
  • 8 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
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      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Hi.

      Jus chexk the turn there is no value and flop is rainbow so u arent getting too much value from worse.
    • Farmarchist
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      Well, it's a limped pot so he could have so many random hands , even J2.

      And what about the river?
    • mbml
      mbml
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      i suggest you count the number of hands you beat and the number of hands you are behind before considering a bet on the turn. yes, he may have j2, but does he have enough worse JX hands as compared to better JX hands? this is the question to be answered
    • Farmarchist
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      Not many but it's a fish so he'll call almost any 9x too on the turn. Also QT, 78, 57, T8
    • mbml
      mbml
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      Betting turn increases value vs draws. But do u have 3 streets vs 9x and weaker jx? I dont think so. U also bloat up the pot and u would have to cc river if draws missed.
    • Farmarchist
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      if I check turn I think villain is gonna bet his entire range. I could be variance but when I check to people after I bet last street they ALWAYS stab and it puts us in a tough spot. It's so much easier with initiative?

      Why not 2 streets (flopturn) > 2streets(flopriver)?

      There is still value OTT from hands which fold river
    • mbml
      mbml
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      I think flop turn makes more sense if board is more draw heavy and flop river seems better if board is drier. This board is somewhat coordinated but still rainbow so i have a preference for checking turn esp when our kicker is so weak.

      Sure u can continue going for value vs oesds but he probably just fold his gutshots which u can bluffcatch against if u check. And u are kind of isolating urself vs better (are u that certain he calls two steeets with 9x?)
    • Farmarchist
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      So check/call turn? And check/fold river?