[NL20-NL50] NL25 SH - KQ: value river?

    • Lunitis
      Lunitis
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.02.2009 Posts: 20,136
      52/20
      3 af
      55% fold vs cbet flop
      2/2 fold vs cbet turn
      3/3 bet turn vs miss
      56% wwsf
      53% agg% river
      148 hands


      BB: $11.44 (45.8 bb)
      Hero (CO): $40.65 (162.6 bb)
      BTN: $55.63 (222.5 bb)
      SB: $20.79 (83.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q:spade: K:diamond:
      Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, BB calls $0.50

      Flop: ($1.60) 3:heart: 2:club: Q:diamond: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks

      Turn: ($1.60) T:club: (2 players)
      BB bets $0.50, Hero raises to $2.30, BB calls $1.80

      River: ($6.20) J:heart: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero ?

      How are you playing this river?
  • 7 replies
    • serverm07
      serverm07
      Basic
      Joined: 08.08.2012 Posts: 1,130
      I think checking back flop with a hand as strong as KQ where we could go for 3 streets of value is bad. I would prefer doing it with something like Q8 where it's a 2 street value hand if he just folds a lot to cbets but if we check he will lead/spazz a lot. I like the "thought" behind this hand but just not the right hand to do it with and you should understand why you are doing something before you do it.
    • serverm07
      serverm07
      Basic
      Joined: 08.08.2012 Posts: 1,130
      Oh as far as river I bet fold $4ish
    • duder1n0
      duder1n0
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      Joined: 07.07.2009 Posts: 5,326
      Against 45bb fish I dont think we need to slowplay or use some tricky line, just valuebet flop, and try to play for stacks, easy game.
    • Lunitis
      Lunitis
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      Joined: 22.02.2009 Posts: 20,136
      Originally posted by pcfmcc02
      Against 45bb fish I dont think we need to slowplay or use some tricky line, just valuebet flop, and try to play for stacks, easy game.
      I think its the opposite, if the fish was staked i loose more value because because i need 3 streets to take most of his stack, but when he is short with two good size bets i can get him all-in.

      This is a board were he dont hit much, he folds well to cbets and he likes to bluff. So i think its a good spot to induce.
    • serverm07
      serverm07
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      Joined: 08.08.2012 Posts: 1,130
      I would agree if he has slightly smaller stack. 45 requires 3bets imo. I don't understand why you didnt read my explanation :(
    • Lunitis
      Lunitis
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      Joined: 22.02.2009 Posts: 20,136
      I read your explanation. I just dont agree :P
      As i said i think he dont hit much, and there is lots of value to take from his air, and when he have a hand i dont think we loose that much of value.
      If i pot the turn and pot the river its only 2$ that are left behind.
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi Lunitis,

      I would be in favor of a small cbet to induce him to either call light or raise. I agree that cbetting too big here (like 2/3) is not as good as checking back. But I believe that even a 1/3-1/2 pot bet will induce a lot from him (call or raise).

      As played I'd bet fold the river to about 2/3.