[NL20-NL50] NL50(fast) - KK

    • ferdy81
      ferdy81
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.08.2011 Posts: 150
      Party, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

      BB: $50 (100 bb) 17/10/1.9/4.7/3.7 [VPIP/PFR/AF/3bet/4bet-range]
      MP: $45.04 (90.1 bb)
      BTN: $51.30 (102.6 bb)
      CO: $105.30 (210.6 bb)
      Hero (SB): $61.88 (123.8 bb)
      UTG: $50 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with K:club: K:spade:
      UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, BB raises to $6.50, MP folds, Hero raises to $15, BB calls $8.50

      Flop: ($30.50) 2:diamond: A:spade: T:heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $15, BB raises to $35 and is all-in, Hero folds

      Results: $60.50 pot ($3 rake)
      Final Board: 2:diamond: A:spade: T:heart:
      BB mucked and won $57.50 ($27.50 net)
      Hero mucked K:club: K:spade: and lost (-$30 net)

      I had little RL issue to quit the session quick, but got into this hand at the end. My Cbet size is somehow weak. Should have pushed or ck/fold it I guess. Another mistake here is bet/fold line... :rolleyes:

      His flop pushing range could be:

      Board: 2:diamond: A:spade: T:heart:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      MP2    48.65%  46.46%   2.19% { KK }
      MP3    51.35%  49.16%   2.19% { TT+, AKs, AKo }


      Preflop 4bet range:

      Board: 2:diamond: A:spade: T:heart:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      MP2    52.73%  51.12%   1.61% { KK }
      MP3    47.27%  45.66%   1.61% { 99+, AQs+, AKo }
  • 3 replies
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,907
      Your cbet size is HUGE! Your 4bet size preflop is also HUMONGOUS!

      There is aboslutely no possible correct decision with the sizings. It's just bad all round unfortunately.

      Preflop, you should 4bet to ~12.50. Your bigger sizing does not acheive anything.

      On the flop, look at the SPR. Why do you cbet? What's the reason behind cbetting there?
    • ferdy81
      ferdy81
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      Joined: 21.08.2011 Posts: 150
      PF:
      His 3bet is very strong (13bb) and I 4bet to a (standard?) 2.5*3bet size, which was mistake. If 3bet size would be around 10bb, 4bet would be than OK around 22-25bb. Right? :f_cool: But now yes, my 4bet is way to strong and I don't have much more room for any postflop play, like you pointed out.

      FLOP:
      Cbet is mistake of course (following the bad PF sizing play OOP). I should have call the way I played, or go with the ck/fold or push AI.

      Is there anything better I can do on the flop in this situation?
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,907
      Yes, 22-25bb 4bet when 100bb deep facing a 10bb 3bet is quite decent. You don't need more and less is a bit risky.

      If you want to cbet, you have to realize stacks are leveraged, therefore you can cbet very small. I would say checking is better though.. it's quite a bad flop for you since he defends AK, AQ type hands, maybe AA (less combos now though and was beating you previously anyway) and QQ, JJ. QQ and JJ try to get to showdown usually and the others get it in. If you bet, worse folds, better calls/shoves.