[NL20-NL50] [SH] NL50 T9s

    • duder1n0
      duder1n0
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      Joined: 07.07.2009 Posts: 5,317
      Prima, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

      BB: $50.75 (101.5 bb)
      UTG: $113.91 (227.8 bb)
      MP: $62.91 (125.8 bb)
      CO: $111.21 (222.4 bb)
      BTN: $91.61 (183.2 bb)
      Hero (SB): $56.79 (113.6 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 T
      UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, BB folds, MP calls $2

      Flop: ($5.50) 4 3 6 (2 players)
      Hero bets $4, MP calls $4

      Turn: ($13.50) T (2 players)
      Hero bets $8, MP raises to $16, Hero calls $8

      River: ($45.50) Q (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP bets $13.50, Hero calls $13.50


      Anon table.

      MP played 26/0 after 20 hands, AFq 54, wtsd 14 so far.

      Turn is a nobrainer call, but do we have a ch/call on the river?
      Potodds are great (19%), but would he bluff enough here with this line (minraise turn, minbet river)?
      Some combodraws are all I can think of (A:c5/A:c7/A:c2/8:c7)
  • 7 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
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      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Hi.

      River is sick spot for sure i woild have folded to a larger bet. Now this guy seems kind of aggro too so i wouldnt mind a call. It may be possbile for him to show up with some spazz or 4x turned into a bluff
    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
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      Joined: 27.12.2010 Posts: 14,640
      I agree with mbml

      What about preflop? Why did you isoraise? I prefer to just complete unless I know he folds a lot to cbets.
    • duder1n0
      duder1n0
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      Joined: 07.07.2009 Posts: 5,317
      Originally posted by Farmarchist
      What about preflop? Why did you isoraise?
      Because I'm isoraise-happy... :D

      No, srsly, I play on anonim tables, so I wont have too many postflop stats most of the time, but I think T9s is good enough to isolate a fullstack fish even oop.
    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
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      Hmmm I really want to hear what is best from some coach (or you if you know). I have so many unsure preflopspots and I'm sick of it :( . I wish you could mathematically proove that a certain hand could be opened +EV or when a 3B has more EV than a call.

      Hmmm, the fish being FS is indeed an argument for an isoraise! The fact that he isn't superfishy (I mean 60/20) is an argument for completing I guess? Or doesn't this make much difference? Is it ever better that he's not too fishy so that we can have some FE?

      My gameplan would be to complete most SC's, suited gappers and isoraise like any broadway, suited ace.
    • duder1n0
      duder1n0
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      Joined: 07.07.2009 Posts: 5,317
      I dont think there is mathematical proof for that, or even a "correct", "exact" answer, cause lots of factors are uncertain, but I do think T9s is worth isolating, it has some highcard value, could make decent TPs, beside flush/straightdraw potential. Plus we have a (hopefully) big edge over the fish anyway.
      I would definitely complete low speculative hands, low SCs like 54s, low PPs like 33/44.
    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
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      Joined: 27.12.2010 Posts: 14,640
      Hmm yes that's true, T9 makes already decent pairs. I think it's close :D

      What do you think from this:
      Complete -> 22-66, 45s-89s, 75s-97s, 85s-J8s.

      Is this too loose? Would you also complete offsuit hands? I just feel like those flop less potential, less semi-bluffing opportunities.

      Please tell me :D
    • mbml
      mbml
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      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      A lot of it depends on how often the player l imp folds or cf flop. Of he does it more often then isoraise becomes better than limping w hands like 22.

      In general mid and high cards are better for isoraising. I rhink 98s 97s + is a goo d place to start.