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    • cekpirus88
      cekpirus88
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.06.2011 Posts: 441
      here are the 2 hands and much more why I decided to close the account there, if the want to frad, they do with other people... one hand after 2 big bets he calls with 5,6 the other 3 full house in 3 players, next time can do better 3 full house and a poker...
      €0.05/€0.10 No Limit Holdem
      PokerStars
      8 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG (€10.48) 105bb
      UTG+1 (€6.74) 67bb
      MP1 (€11.56) 116bb
      MP2 (€11.76) 118bb
      CO (€26.88) 269bb
      cekpirus88 (BTN) (€10.47) 105bb
      SB (€9.42) 94bb
      BB (€17.51) 175bb

      Pre-Flop: (€0.15, 8 players) cekpirus88 is BTN 6:diamond: 6:club:
      1 fold, UTG+1 calls €0.10, 1 fold, MP2 calls €0.10, 1 fold, cekpirus88 raises to €0.30, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls €0.20, MP2 raises to €0.50, cekpirus88 calls €0.20, UTG+1 calls €0.20

      Flop: J:spade: J:club: 6:spade: (€1.65, 3 players)
      UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, cekpirus88 bets €0.80, UTG+1 calls €0.80, MP2 calls €0.80

      Turn: Q:diamond: (€4.05, 3 players)
      UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, cekpirus88 bets €1.80, UTG+1 raises to €3.60, MP2 calls €3.60, cekpirus88 raises to €6, UTG+1 goes all-in €1.84, MP2 goes all-in €10.46, cekpirus88 goes all-in €3.17

      River: 8:club: (€27.83, 3 players, 3 all-in)

      Final Pot: €27.83
      cekpirus88 shows a full house, Sixes full of Jacks
      6:diamond: 6:club:
      UTG+1 shows a full house, Jacks full of Eights
      J:heart: 8:heart:
      MP2 shows a full house, Queens full of Jacks
      Q:club: Q:heart:

      MP2 wins €27.59 (net +€15.83)

      cekpirus88 lost €10.47
      UTG+1 lost €6.74


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      €0.05/€0.10 No Limit Holdem
      PokerStars
      9 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG (€8.76) 88bb
      UTG+1 (€5.07) 51bb
      MP1 (€18.73) 187bb
      MP2 (€10.63) 106bb
      MP3 (€10.74) 107bb
      CO (€10) 100bb
      BTN (€29.03) 290bb
      SB (€26.58) 266bb
      cekpirus88 (BB) (€11.85) 119bb

      Pre-Flop: (€0.25, 9 players) cekpirus88 is BB K:club: K:spade:
      [CO posts €0.10]
      UTG calls €0.10, UTG+1 calls €0.10, 2 folds, MP3 calls €0.10, CO checks, BTN calls €0.10, 1 fold, cekpirus88 raises to €1.10, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, BTN calls €1

      Flop: 6:diamond: 2:spade: J:club: (€2.65, 2 players)
      cekpirus88 bets €1.80, BTN calls €1.80

      Turn: 5:heart: (€6.25, 2 players)
      cekpirus88 bets €3.60, BTN goes all-in €26.13, cekpirus88 goes all-in €5.35

      River: A:club: (€24.15, 2 players, 2 all-in)

      Final Pot: €24.15
      cekpirus88 shows a pair of Kings
      K:club: K:spade:
      BTN shows two pair, Sixes and Fives
      6:spade: 5:spade:

      BTN wins €40.01 (net +€10.98)

      cekpirus88 lost €11.85
      UTG lost €0.10
      UTG+1 lost €0.10
      MP3 lost €0.10
      CO lost €0.10
  • 30 replies
    • pleno1
      pleno1
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 19.11.2010 Posts: 5,596
      Hey man,

      Unfortunately this is just poker. Go down to your local casino on Friday night, I promise you will hear the word "that is so sick" over 10 times, now online you play way more hands per hour, but it still happens reguarly live, its not sick, its standard.

      Regarding the hands, you played them both pretty well. On the first one its definitely a "sigh" call rather than a "fistpump" call btu with the dead money and the chances they have worse hands for value and maybe draws you can't get away.

      On the second its just a cold deck too, I like your raise size pre, but the donkey just got there. Sometimes the donkeys get there, but just keep making it expensive and eventually you will have all of their money!
    • abhi147
      abhi147
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.08.2011 Posts: 935
      Hand 1 is a fold on turn

      Hand 2 a fish screwed you, reload and take his money

      If you want to quit based on this, then please quit asap, Poker is not for the faint hearted.
    • TiciBoy
      TiciBoy
      Bronze
      Joined: 13.01.2010 Posts: 1,235
      Wow, I better close my account, too. :facepalm:
    • Maloco87
      Maloco87
      Bronze
      Joined: 30.01.2011 Posts: 514
      As soon as the turn hit in the first hand I thought "villian has QJ snap fold"

      the 2nd hand is pretty unlucky but thats one thing I notice about fish when they shove such a big stack you really gotta wonder why? and thats normally why because they have you beat. I know this because I have been in that same spot with AA and KK so many times. Reload and go get your money back!
    • WarTop
      WarTop
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.01.2007 Posts: 691
      you should be aware that this could, and if you play long enough would apear at any other Pokerroom.
    • jonnyjm
      jonnyjm
      Bronze
      Joined: 24.03.2008 Posts: 447
      Why make 2 threads???????????

      S**t happens...Welcome to poker...
    • UPAY4DINNER
      UPAY4DINNER
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.09.2009 Posts: 21,923
      Hey guys,

      Merged the two threads and moved this to the PokerStars board :)

      I think pleno1 answered perfectly here so I've got nothing else to add.



      Kind regards,
      Gary
    • Gentari
      Gentari
      Global
      Joined: 08.05.2011 Posts: 344
      I am a cash fish but see these hands as standard beats, you wait until the real sick stuff happens.

      Infact go play some Hyper 6max and you will close all accounts in a day :)

      Seriously as stated above, bad luck happens, play well and you get your money back and then some more. If you are getting so worried about these hands then either you need to work on tilt control or use better BRM (1 stack should not make a huge difference to you).

      Good Luck
    • Gentari
      Gentari
      Global
      Joined: 08.05.2011 Posts: 344
      Super aggro fish, been calling light and stealing/limping from BTN but been getting lucky - crippled a guy a few hands back calling an All In 3Bet with 87o v QQ

      Known Players:
      BU: 4690 - 47 bb
      SB: 1150 - 12 bb
      BB: 3160 - 32 bb

      50/100 No Limit Hold'em Tournament (3 Handed)
      Hand recorder for this hand: PokerStrategy.com SideKick 1.0.51227.1

      Preflop: Hero is SB with A:diamond: , 9:heart:
      Hero posts small blind (50), BB posts big blind (100), BU calls, Hero raises for 1100 and is all in, BB folds, BU calls

      Flop: (2400 - 24 bb) 7:heart: , 7:club: , 6:spade: (2 Players)

      Turn: (2400 - 24 bb) 5:diamond: (2 Players)

      River: (2400 - 24 bb) 3:spade: (2 Players)

      So this hand results in me out in 3rd after the guy calls with 42o...

      Sick stuff happens to us all, every day. The fish went on to win, but over the long run he is going broke :)
    • cekpirus88
      cekpirus88
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.06.2011 Posts: 441
      The hand with the full house, I mean the guy slow playing QQ pre it is is a little bit strange but it is ok, but what I can not understand is the hand with KK what the hell is he calling with 56 suited on the flop he had just middle pair, he is beating nothing... In the other poker room I won money and in pokerstars just lost... I think is a little bit strange...
    • Jitroceler
      Jitroceler
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      Joined: 28.05.2010 Posts: 217
      Rafa Nadal is not a cheap guy. They need your money.
    • jigglybutt
      jigglybutt
      Bronze
      Joined: 26.01.2013 Posts: 4
      The first hand was just very unlucky. I don't think many folks are going to lay down a boat on the flop there....At least not too often.

      Second hand .. Raise was good pre flop But unfortunately You made a substantial bet with the kk only after he had made 2 pair. That sucks big time And that is why I never slow roll or raise lightly with high pocket pairs. With KK I would rather get it all in pre flop and get one caller with a weak Ace....If I lose I lose if they fold At least I didn't get donked off.

      Tough break man! Keep your head up though. Always going to have good days and bad. All in how you bounce back. After a nasty beat I tend to do something else for a while and relax. Come back composed and get those fishes money!

      Hope you have better luck in the future.
    • xJCzZ
      xJCzZ
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.11.2009 Posts: 320
      unfortunetely this is what we call standard variance where by your sample of hands is too small to justify calling this badluck or goodluck, keep playing good poker and results will follow, try and read as many articles as possible and results will follow gogogo xx :D the key to this thing called poker is some serious hardwork and dedication get ahead of the learning curve and pursue your dream with some serious volume thats it reallly.......
    • PSBallin
      PSBallin
      Basic
      Joined: 02.01.2013 Posts: 14
      How can people scream fraud when the software is certified and checked on a regular basis? Are the people regulating PokerStars trying to scam you too? Come on.

      I can understand getting angry and taking a break, but quitting the game because of something like this? Come on, how many times were you explicitly told that this stuff was going to happen when you were reading your first tutorials? It's as if people didn't know what they were signing up for.
    • VladimirN
      VladimirN
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.02.2008 Posts: 438
      Originally posted by PSBallin
      How can people scream fraud when the software is certified and checked on a regular basis?
      Open it! You know you want to.

    • Vygantas82
      Vygantas82
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.04.2010 Posts: 361
      How can people scream fraud when the software is certified and checked on a regular basis? Are the people regulating PokerStars trying to scam you too? Come on.

      Who do you wan't to fool? Pokerstars RNG was partially "audited" only once back in 2003 by a company which was payed by pokerstars to do that. Integrity of games in pokerstars was never fully audited and never will be till they hide their asses in corupted offshore island. And till is not regulated and audited by some non coruptted EU country like UK or Germany, or USA you can stick those meaningless licenses and "audits" deep

      [edited by HollyMichelle] No need for vulgarity please.
    • Rahica
      Rahica
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.06.2011 Posts: 149
      I don't know how you guys think.. If Pokerstars is rigged, STOP PLAYING.. It's not a hard decision, just withdraw and move to another platform until you decide that one is rigged also and so on.. Stop thinking that the platform is trying to cheat you, taking your money and giving them to some other person that they don't know.. There are a lot of post out here talking about this subject but I guess it will never stop...

      All in all, you are free to make your own choices in life, so instead of being on a downswing or playing bad and thinking over and over that the platform is robbing you, I would chose to stop playing. Good luck in the future and I hope you will realize that you're not losing because of the platform, you're losing because of: 1. VARIANCE 2. BAD POKER.. Cheers !
    • pavels4444
      pavels4444
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      Joined: 09.09.2010 Posts: 1,539
      wow, thanks for warning me :f_o:
    • Vygantas82
      Vygantas82
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.04.2010 Posts: 361
      I told you little morons show me papers that pokerstars or your other pimp online "poker" site is fully audited and regulated on regular basis. Poker players dont need nothing more. If you don;t have it go and fuck yourself with your little propaganda.
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