[NL20-NL50] Nl50sh QQ a bit deep

    • jachis
      Joined: 07.04.2008 Posts: 745
      $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
      4 Players
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      CO ($27.77) 56bb
      BTN ($76.47) 153bb
      SB ($57.99) 116bb
      hero (BB) ($168.82) 338bb

      Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 4 players) hero is BB Q:spade: Q:heart:
      CO calls $0.50, BTN raises to $2, 1 fold, hero raises to $7, CO folds, BTN raises to $15, hero calls $8

      Flop: 9:club: 6:heart: A:heart: ($30.75, 2 players)
      hero checks, BTN checks

      Turn: 4:club: ($30.75, 2 players)
      hero checks, BTN bets $9, hero calls $9

      River: 10:diamond: ($48.75, 2 players)
      hero checks, BTN bets $25, hero folds

      Final Pot: $48.75

      BTN wins $96.75 (net +$47.75)

      CO lost $0.50
      hero lost $24

      Villain 23/19, 3bet 7%, and now like his 4betting a lot vs resteals but that might be a sample issue, 4bet vs resteal 75% (3/4). Also I did not notice that while playing. Villain cbets a lot in singleraised pots, only 43%(3/7) 3bet pots, no sample on 4bet pots.

      I guess im a bit scared money when deep, what are my options?
      I could 5bet/fold so I dont have to play OOP. Not sure how often A or K comes on the flop when I call, but it always makes things more complicated.

      On the flop I would expect him to cbet this board a lot, but as he doesnt I think he should have some SD value (some weakish Ax hand as 4betbluff or maybe JJ-KK) or maybe nuts AA which he decides to play tricky.

      His turn bet is very small, might be for thin value or some protection even thou there arent to many hands in my 3bet/calling range OOP against he needs to protect. Also I did raise once against his small turn bet as complete bluff vs his trips, so there might be a bigger chance hes inducing.

      On the river I guess I should call just to know what hands he plays like this and next time have some decent info.

      Overall I think this hand is played quite bad, as my hand is quite face up by the river, so villain can easily put pressure on me and make me fold.
  • 3 replies
    • double2
      Joined: 04.11.2008 Posts: 14,642
      I would just 5bet ship pre flop 150bbs deep. I don't have a lot of experience playing deep so I might bee wrong. But calling 4bets oop is not the way to go too imo.
    • EmanuelC16
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,909
      Deep, OOP and with a limper, your 3bet sizing is definetly way too small... I would 5bet/call it off actually. If you 5bet you cannot fold given the odds since he will not 4bet/fold AK.

      Being deep does change things quite a bit but BvB and quite a bit of dead money when you 5bet I think this is a 5bet/call like AK is a 4bet/call (almost never ahead way, too much dead money to fold).

      Ofc, if he is not 4betting AK and QQ pre in this spot in sort of sucks for you since now calling becomes a more reasonable option but with your small sizing I think he 4bets those instantly.
    • jachis
      Joined: 07.04.2008 Posts: 745
      The sizing is so small cause I noticed that were deep only when he made the 4bet :(

      5bet/call makes sense, good explanation, thanks