[NL2-NL10] NL10 QQ 135bb deep vs fish

    • Clickbox
      Clickbox
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      NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
      SB ($25.39)
      Hero ($15.36)
      UTG ($13.67)
      UTG+1 ($10)
      CO ($12.88)
      BTN ($15.68)

      Dealt to Hero Q:heart: Q:club:

      UTG calls $0.10, UTG+1 raises to $0.50, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.70, UTG calls $1.60, fold

      FLOP ($3.95) T:diamond: 5:heart: 5:spade:

      Hero bets $2.82, UTG calls $2.82

      TURN ($9.59) T:diamond: 5:heart: 5:spade: 7:spade:

      Hero bets $10.84 (AI), UTG calls $9.15 (AI)

      RIVER ($27.89) T:diamond: 5:heart: 5:spade: 7:spade: J:spade:

      Hero shows Q:heart: Q:club: (Pre 70%, Flop 8.9%, Turn 4.5%) UTG shows 5:diamond: A:heart: (Pre 30%, Flop 91.1%, Turn 95.5%) UTG wins $26.89


      UTG+1 was rather nitty at the time based on like 10 hands...so unknown, obviously sqz'd to isolate UTG:
      Big fish, passive CS
      58/6
      wtsd 48% (29)
      wwsf 55%
      w$sd 50% (14)
      fto3bet 0% (20)

      Normally I wouldn't bet this big in a 3bet pot on a board like this...however he's a giant fish and I wanted to get it in on the turn. Now I'd probably bet a little bigger this way, so he's got a smaller stack left for the turn.

      Is this thinking fine, or should I be afraid of being behind here often, and do some sort of pot control?
  • 4 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Hi Clickbox,

      Preflop: looks fine

      Postflop: This is one of those spots where you are way ahead or way behind. There are virtually no draws to be afraid off on the flop.

      So betting this big will isolate you against his better range which includes 5x and Tx and pairs. But really you want his calling range to be much wider than that for max value.

      With that being said I would bet 1/2 flop maybe a bit more on the turn as it brings some draws and ship river.
    • Clickbox
      Clickbox
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      Okay, thanks! Looks like I should have sticked to my usual line/sizing :)

      If you are half potting, are you bet/folding anywhere, or you are always bet/calling flop and turn?
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by Clickbox
      Okay, thanks! Looks like I should have sticked to my usual line/sizing :)

      If you are half potting, are you bet/folding anywhere, or you are always bet/calling flop and turn?
      "Passive CS"

      What does that tells us?
    • Clickbox
      Clickbox
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      It tells us to bet/fold? :P
      I'd hate to fold to an AT/KT/QT/JT something though, since he's a fish and all and we haven't seen that many hands from him :)

      Does this apply as well if we are only 100bb deep? I'm kinda unsure when it comes to 125bb+ deep play, but honestly I'd never really think twice about getting it in 100bb deep...which might be wrong too.