[NL20-NL50] AA 4bet

    • mlatasrb
      mlatasrb
      Gold
      Joined: 01.04.2012 Posts: 2,722
      PartyGaming - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      Hero (BTN): 135.36 BB
      SB: 96.08 BB
      BB: 175 BB
      UTG: 45.96 BB
      MP: 111.52 BB
      CO: 100.64 BB

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A:club: A:spade:

      fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, SB raises to 8 BB, fold, Hero raises to 17 BB, SB calls 9 BB

      Flop: (35 BB, 2 players) T:spade: T:club: 4:spade:
      SB checks, Hero bets 16.64 BB, SB calls 16.64 BB

      Turn: (68.28 BB, 2 players) A:heart:
      SB checks, Hero bets 19 BB, SB raises to 62.44 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 43.44 BB

      River: (193.16 BB, 2 players) 7:diamond:

      Hero shows A:club: A:spade: (Full House, Aces full of Tens) (Pre 82%, Flop 92%, Turn 100%)
      SB mucks Q:spade: Q:diamond: (Two Pair, Queens and Tens) (Pre 18%, Flop 8%, Turn 0%)
      Hero wins 183.52 BB


      160 hands, VPiP 17, PFR 12, 3bet 2%. 4bet+ 0/5


      Is my 4bet size ok IP? I want him to push or call light and get in the problem postflop.
      I also bluff 4bet a lot with this size from BTN if somebody is 3betting a lot and folding to 4bet.


      I didnt like A on turn, it is action killer for his JJ, QQ, KK. So is it ok cbet so small (prize he cant refuse with QQ, KK), to make him pot commited and then just 10$ left for river?
  • 4 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,697
      hi

      your 4bet size is fine. my standard here is 2X which is 16bb in this case.
      on the flop your bet is way too big. betting 33-40% pot has the same effect has betting your 45% pot size. I would bet 12 BB here.

      On the turn i would just shove and try to represent a bluff. I think when you bet small it looks more for value than if you shove. this is kind of dependent on the sophistication level of the opponent though.
    • mlatasrb
      mlatasrb
      Gold
      Joined: 01.04.2012 Posts: 2,722
      "On the turn i would just shove and try to represent a bluff. I think when you bet small it looks more for value than if you shove. "


      I would fold with QQ against shove here.Because 4bet is strong, and then I hope he has AK and 3 barrels as bluff, or with weaker Ax, and if he bluffs 4bet he mostly bluffs with Ax (blocker), I dont think people do it with JJ or TT and similar.

      I agree when I bet small it looks like nuts, but would you fold to a so small bet? You get so great odds that you cant fold, it could still be bluff. And on the river some people might think they are pot commited and call with KK, QQ. Or it happens like this guy, I think he tried to fold my KK, or just wanted to finish fast this stressfull hand.
    • Saren113
      Saren113
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    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,697
      It rly depends on the level ur opponent is on. But shoving makes u look lile a semi bluff a lot more than a small bet (more polarized btwn air or nuts)