[NL2-NL10] [NL2 SH] KQ flat call

    • Th334
      Th334
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      Hero (BB): $3.99 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 20, 3B: 8, AF: 4.2, Hands: 15243
      UTG: $3.01 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 25, 3B: 13, AF: 1.9, Hands: 214 -- RFI UTG: 35, CBF: 80
      CO: $1.41 - VPIP: 33, PFR: 23, 3B: 7, AF: 0.0, Hands: 39
      BTN: $3.78 - VPIP: 12, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 89
      SB: $2.00 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 1.6, Hands: 151

      Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with Q :club: K :diamond:
      UTG raises to $0.08, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.06

      Flop: ($0.17) K :spade: 3 :club: A :heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, UTG bets $0.12, Hero calls $0.12

      Turn: ($0.41) 5 :diamond: (2 players)
      Hero checks, UTG checks

      River: ($0.41) 9 :club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.24, UTG calls $0.24

      Preflop: he has 35% RFI from UTG, so I consider myself standing good against his range and flat.

      Flop: He cbets 80% it's an easy call.

      River: I value bet because he checked behind the turn, where I assume aces would bet. Ha calls and shows AQ :f_biggrin: Is it a bad value bet or just a bad luck?
  • 5 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Hi German,

      Preflop: how does he react to 3-bets?

      Unless you have reads about his postflop game you would show a better long term profit just 3-betting there.

      Postflop: As played, since he has a wide range he can also check back some weak Ax on the turn. What hands, besides Ax and some Kx do you expect him to call that river bet with?
    • Th334
      Th334
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      Originally posted by BogdanPS
      Hi German,

      Preflop: how does he react to 3-bets?

      Unless you have reads about his postflop game you would show a better long term profit just 3-betting there.

      Postflop: As played, since he has a wide range he can also check back some weak Ax on the turn. What hands, besides Ax and some Kx do you expect him to call that river bet with?
      Why is a call bad, because we have no position, right? We wouldn't 3B him IP, would we? It's a nice call IP.

      Also, what kinda reads do you mean? Like that his postflop is bad and we can outplay him?

      River: Oh, true. Even if we assume that he has no aces here, we can't be sure that weaker kings are happy to call on an ace board. If we add to the equation weak aces that checked back, I agree that our value bet is too thin.
    • BogdanPS
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      Being oop and with a hand that doesn't flop often.

      By reads I mean anything from bet sizing tells, line tells like this one, etc. Anything that will make us guess less postflop.
    • Th334
      Th334
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      Originally posted by BogdanPS
      Being oop and with a hand that doesn't flop often.
      Okay, I see.

      Are you thinking of KQs/AJs?

      AQ is already a 3bet, but these two seem like the only ones that are not speculative and flop often.
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Originally posted by Th334
      Originally posted by BogdanPS
      Being oop and with a hand that doesn't flop often.
      Okay, I see.

      Are you thinking of KQs/AJs?

      AQ is already a 3bet, but these two seem like the only ones that are not speculative and flop often.
      AQ should be a 3-bet if you expect villain to call a lot postflop. Otherwise it's just another bluffs.

      Suited broadways definitely play better OOP than their offsuite counterparts.