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[NL2-NL10] nl5 700bb+ pot

    • Vip3rNZ
      Vip3rNZ
      Bronze
      Joined: 11.11.2011 Posts: 340
      Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BTN: $3.90 (78 bb)
      SB: $12.55 (251 bb)
      BB: $2.50 (50 bb)
      UTG+1: $12.17 (243.4 bb)
      UTG+2: $7.40 (148 bb)
      MP1: $6.10 (122 bb)
      MP2: $4.71 (94.2 bb)
      MP3: $20.72 (414.4 bb)
      Hero (CO): $18.15 (363 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with 6 6
      4 folds, MP3 raises to $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, 3 folds

      Flop: ($0.27) 6 A 3 (2 players)
      MP3 checks, Hero bets $0.20, MP3 calls $0.20

      Turn: ($0.67) J (2 players)
      MP3 checks, Hero bets $0.55, MP3 calls $0.55

      River: ($1.77) K (2 players)
      MP3 checks, Hero bets $1.70, MP3 raises to $4.95, Hero raises to $17.30 and is all-in, MP3 calls $12.35

      Results:
      $36.37 pot ($1.00 rake)
      Final Board: 6 A 3 J K
      MP3 showed A A and won $35.37 ($17.22 net)
      Hero showed 6 6 and lost (-$18.15 net)


      his stats 31/19/1.0AF/20.0 3bet /9 limp / 60 WTS after flop 16 hands.

      I should of flat called river right? fuck life.

      I thought with those stats he could have AJ/AK/33 should of known the stats were messed up due to low sample, obv those arnt his real stats for someone sitting with $20 at a zoom table. Also his min raise pre-flop kinda fucked with my head a bit
  • 4 replies
    • kymupa
      kymupa
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.10.2009 Posts: 22,364
      Hello,

      Preflop calling is fine.

      When he checks here on the flop betting is good and I like your sizing.

      On the turn betting again is fine.

      I prefer betting smaller on the river here - like $1.1-$1.2.
      After he makes such a big check/raise here we could even consider folding right away. I don't think he'd play too much worse hands here like this.
      I wouldn't say that calling is too bad here on Nl5, since someone could easily end up having AJ or AK that played "tricky", but then I would definitely not shove here.

      Best,
      Plamen
    • Th334
      Th334
      Bronze
      Joined: 26.11.2012 Posts: 971
      Hi,

      I don't think 2P are stacking that deep here. I would say he'll be almost always on a set, and chances are good that he's on a stronger one (AA, JJ, occasional KK that doesn't like folding).

      I also saw many times on these limits that people minraise monsters, or even open-limp form SB :)

      Also, why do you want to stack against him because of the stats? Even if you had a bigger sample size. AF 1.0...
    • Vip3rNZ
      Vip3rNZ
      Bronze
      Joined: 11.11.2011 Posts: 340
      By his stats i ment he's pretty loose and goes to showdown alot, but i guess this makes him more loose passive calling station who's raises i must dodge, i really feel i failed bad on this hand lol i wana keep playing but i know after an emotional crushing like that it's best to wait till alot later or tomorrow, thanks for the replys guys! :D
    • Th334
      Th334
      Bronze
      Joined: 26.11.2012 Posts: 971
      Originally posted by Vip3rNZ
      By his stats i ment he's pretty loose and goes to showdown alot, but i guess this makes him more loose passive calling station who's raises i must dodge, i really feel i failed bad on this hand lol i wana keep playing but i know after an emotional crushing like that it's best to wait till alot later or tomorrow, thanks for the replys guys! :D
      Yeah, true :) As long as your PC is still in one piece -- it's all good mate.

      PS: They say that WTSD converges slowly. Slowly is like 500 hands before you can estimate it more or less correctly. Not 16 :) I'm not sure if 500 is possible for NL5 Zoom though :f_biggrin:

      So try having ~50 hands for the simplest preflop (VPIP/PFR), ~100 hands for the more detailed preflop (Stealing, limp-folding, cold-calling), ~150 maybe add some flop stats like CB, vs CB, AF, and ~200 you can start looking at difficult ones as a rough guideline (3/4bets, WTSD/W$SD, c-r flop, positional RFI).

      It's just my guess, but I'm pretty sure that it's better than what you are looking at with 16 hands :) With the difficult ones, it's definitely better not to look there at all with <150 sample.

      Best of luck