[NL2-NL10] NL 10 QJs

    • 0744379
      0744379
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      Seat 5 is the button
      Seat 2: Player2 ( $10.69 USD ) - VPIP: 81, PFR: 69, 3B: 60, AF: 3.3, Hands: 16
      Seat 5: Hero ( $10.17 USD ) - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 2.4, Hands: 44449
      Seat 6: Player6 ( $9.90 USD ) - VPIP: 18, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 17
      Seat 4: Player4 ( $2.20 USD ) - VPIP: 29, PFR: 6, 3B: 17, AF: 0.3, Hands: 17
      Seat 1: Player1 ( $21.44 USD ) - VPIP: 17, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 1.3, Hands: 58
      Seat 3: Player3 ( $11.15 USD ) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 12, 3B: 20, AF: 3.0, Hands: 25

      Party, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      UTG: $10.69 (106.9 bb)
      Hero (BTN): $10.17 (101.7 bb)
      SB: $9.90 (99 bb)
      CO: $2.20 (22 bb)
      BB: $21.44 (214.4 bb)
      MP: $11.15 (111.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q J
      UTG raises to $0.40, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.40, 2 folds

      Flop: ($0.95) 7 7 K (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $0.60, UTG calls $0.60

      Turn: ($2.15) T (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $1.60, UTG calls $1.60

      River: ($5.35) 5 (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $3.39, UTG raises to $8.09 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.18 and is all-in

      Results:
      $20.49 pot ($1 rake)
      Final Board: 7 7 K T 5
      UTG showed T 7 and won $19.49 ($9.32 net)
      Hero showed Q J and lost (-$10.17 net)


      Considering opponent I dont think I can fold river. I think HE might play 7x this way but also the nut flush, TT, K7. T7, 57, KK. What do you think?
  • 7 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi Kevin,

      Preflop: How do you plan on playing QJs postflop if we hit a Q and J and we are facing a potentially aggro fish (sample is too small to really know how he plays post)?

      Postflop: As played I would consider bet/folding that river there. I doubt he raises a Kx/7x like that and while there are some worse flushes the K, Q, J and T are on the flop so all other flushes are random small cards. Now he can have a TON of better hands.

      I wouldn't count all T7 combos for example but KK, 77, TT, 75s, T7s, NFD and his line of ck/call turn and ck/shove river is pretty strong. We could bluffcatch here if we have any reason to believe that villain can shove a 7x or bluff with AhX which he has many in his range. Pot odds indicate that he has to bluff/raise worse 1 in 5 hands.
    • 0744379
      0744379
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      If it is a Q or J high board I think we can play passively in position for value.

      On river now that you say it I'm not sure if he bluffs/raises 20% of the time. Even with 7x I doubt he ever raises on that board.
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Originally posted by 0744379
      If it is a Q or J high board I think we can play passively in position for value.

      On river now that you say it I'm not sure if he bluffs/raises 20% of the time. Even with 7x I doubt he ever raises on that board.
      Yeh, this deep I doubt he will raise much worse on that river.

      So we'd have to bet/fold.
    • 0744379
      0744379
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      What do you think of checking back on the river?
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Originally posted by 0744379
      What do you think of checking back on the river?
      What's his range looking like on the river, once he checks to us?

      Try to list out the hands that can play like that.

      How many Kx/7x vs hands that beat us?
    • 0744379
      0744379
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      Ak with Ace of hearts, maybe all AK hands, KQdd although he shouldnt call the turn with this hand, A7s and possibly 87s = 11 combos

      vs

      KK, 77, TT, T7s, 75s,55, A9hh, A8hh, = 15 combos.

      I might get value from 2 or 3 of his combos but no more than that so I think a check is fine
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Originally posted by 0744379
      Ak with Ace of hearts, maybe all AK hands, KQdd although he shouldnt call the turn with this hand, A7s and possibly 87s = 11 combos

      vs

      KK, 77, TT, T7s, 75s,55, A9hh, A8hh, = 15 combos.

      I might get value from 2 or 3 of his combos but no more than that so I think a check is fine
      Yes, and this line of ck/call two streets ck/shove river on boards where big slowplays are possible it's usually a big slowplay and not a bluff.