[NL2-NL10] NL4 SH, FD in 3B pot.

    • dienaszaglis
      dienaszaglis
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      $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem
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      Stacks:
      CO ($4.69) 117bb
      BTN ($4) 100bb
      HERO (SB) ($4.87) 122bb
      BB ($6.01) 150bb

      Pre-Flop: ($0.06, 4 players) HERO is SB J:diamond: A:spade:
      CO raises to $0.12, 1 fold, HERO raises to $0.40, 1 fold, CO calls $0.28

      Flop: K:spade: 3:spade: 9:spade: ($0.84, 2 players)
      HERO bets $0.44, CO raises to $0.88, HERO?

      Villain`s 25/18, ST@CO=25%, AF: 1.5, 50h

      PRE
      I think this is OK spot to 3B.

      FLOP
      On such a board I got reasonable equity, also villain would fold most of his PRE calling range. When he min-raises, I got 17% on a call. I don`t have much implied odds, if a spade comes on the turn.

      Also, I think villain would be more inclined to just call with Kx.

      Most likely he`s minraising with KxQs, 99, maybe 33, AK, QsQx.
  • 5 replies
    • Th334
      Th334
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      We are bluffing preflop, right?

      On the flop we can call without any implieds, no?
    • dienaszaglis
      dienaszaglis
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      Originally posted by Th334
      We are bluffing preflop, right?

      On the flop we can call without any implieds, no?
      Yes.

      And calling on the flop is very, very close IMO. I might call vs more aggressive villain. In this spot I don`t think he would raise with Kx often enough to justify a call. But that`s just me.

      What do you think?
    • cutegoldfish
      cutegoldfish
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      Shove it all in. Like you mentioned a spade comes you don't get more action.

      Besides he could have qq jj that played that way and could fold.

      Even against kq kj we have the A out and flush draw.

      Thanks cgf
    • Th334
      Th334
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      @dienaszaglis, I was saying that just mathematically every time we hit a spade and make him fold, or don't hit a spade and fold ourselves, we will have overall profit. We will see a spade in 19% cases, and as you said we need only 17% for a call. Tiny profit is already here, so it's better than folding. If you add at least some implieds (like him having Qs and calling one bet), we see even more profit.

      @CGF, I put him on QQ-99,33,AQ+,KQ and got 42% equity. If we consider that he will stack only with the stronger part of this range, we get like 35%. As we need to have 50%+ equity for a profitable value bet, that's way off. Am I wrong?
    • cutegoldfish
      cutegoldfish
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      Consider also

      Him calling kq kj kt qj tj qq and possibly a spade coming and they have a spade and you get value from him.

      The above is a big part of his range and you get a good value bet when you make your flush

      And if you are wrong, you still have 35% equity so that's not so bad