[NL2-NL10] Kq

    • Imimba1
      Imimba1
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      Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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      CO: $2.50 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 10, 3B: 2, AF: 0,4, Hands: 145
      BTN: $5.00 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 17, 3B: 2, AF: 2,1, Hands: 143
      SB: $7.48 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 11, 3B: 4, AF: 1,5, Hands: 301
      BB: $3.67 - VPIP: 32, PFR: 25, 3B: 5, AF: 2,7, Hands: 63
      UTG: $16.00 - VPIP: 41, PFR: 12, 3B: 5, AF: 2,3, Hands: 207
      Hero (MP): $5.48 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 4, AF: 2,0, Hands: 81929

      Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP with Q :club: K :diamond:
      UTG calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.22, 4 folds, UTG calls $0.17

      Flop: ($0.51) 2 :heart: 5 :diamond: 6 :spade: (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $0.24, UTG calls $0.24

      Turn: ($0.99) Q :diamond: (2 players)


      UTG checks, Hero bets $0.70, UTG raises to $1.40, Hero folds

      Ch.c flop, ch.r turn beats 1p was the reason I folded
  • 8 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Hi Imimba,

      Preflop: looks fine

      Postflop: Looks fine to cbet on the lower end on the flop.

      On the turn We should bet/fold as ck/call, ck/minraise line is usually strong. In this case we have 200 hands on villain so we should have some reads. He also doesn't seem overly passive.

      So what do we know about him?
    • Imimba1
      Imimba1
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      Originally posted by BogdanPS
      Hi Imimba,

      Preflop: looks fine

      Postflop: Looks fine to cbet on the lower end on the flop.

      On the turn We should bet/fold as ck/call, ck/minraise line is usually strong. In this case we have 200 hands on villain so we should have some reads. He also doesn't seem overly passive.

      So what do we know about him?
      What information would you find relevant here?
      I mean, I have many stats, but but is useful here? Ch/r turn? Fold to CB?
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      It's not necessarily stats that we need to look for.

      Over 200 hands he's played 40% of them (80 hands) which means that he most likely saw quite a few showdowns. That could tell us how he plays TP, 2nd pair, draws, etc.

      So for example if we've seen him overvalue TP with raises or raise draws then on the turn we could continue with our hand. Or if we've seen him play TP or draws passively then we can assume his range is more on the passive side.

      Stats wise you could check turn aggression, fold to cbet (flop/turn), but they won't really paint a proper picture.
    • Imimba1
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      Originally posted by BogdanPS
      It's not necessarily stats that we need to look for.

      Over 200 hands he's played 40% of them (80 hands) which means that he most likely saw quite a few showdowns. That could tell us how he plays TP, 2nd pair, draws, etc.

      So for example if we've seen him overvalue TP with raises or raise draws then on the turn we could continue with our hand. Or if we've seen him play TP or draws passively then we can assume his range is more on the passive side.

      Stats wise you could check turn aggression, fold to cbet (flop/turn), but they won't really paint a proper picture.
      While playing 4+ tables, is it possible to write these kind of notes at the same time?
    • BogdanPS
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      Originally posted by Imimba1
      Originally posted by BogdanPS
      It's not necessarily stats that we need to look for.

      Over 200 hands he's played 40% of them (80 hands) which means that he most likely saw quite a few showdowns. That could tell us how he plays TP, 2nd pair, draws, etc.

      So for example if we've seen him overvalue TP with raises or raise draws then on the turn we could continue with our hand. Or if we've seen him play TP or draws passively then we can assume his range is more on the passive side.

      Stats wise you could check turn aggression, fold to cbet (flop/turn), but they won't really paint a proper picture.
      While playing 4+ tables, is it possible to write these kind of notes at the same time?
      Easily, but these are notes that you don't necessarily need to write down. I call them mental notes and I keep many of these, especially on fishy players. Of course if you play 16 tables that will become a bit more difficult.

      How's your short term memory and visual memory (which is what we use for this)?
    • Imimba1
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      Well, not too good I guess.

      I'd rather make a notecaddy definition for this: Ch.c flop, ch.r turn, and put a CaddySpark there, so I can see, what hands he showed down OR whether he showed weakness or strength afterwords. Thanks for the tip!

      I like Notecaddy, because I can make definitions about anything.
      I'd rather spend 30 minutes making a definition, never to worry about remembering on a special spot again. :s_love:
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Originally posted by Imimba1
      Well, not too good I guess.

      I'd rather make a notecaddy definition for this: Ch.c flop, ch.r turn, and put a CaddySpark there, so I can see, what hands he showed down OR whether he showed weakness or strength afterwords. Thanks for the tip!

      I like Notecaddy, because I can make definitions about anything.
      I'd rather spend 30 minutes making a definition, never to worry about remembering on a special spot again. :s_love:
      Well, as long as you actually look at those notes/spark graphs then this could be a good substitute.

      But still, no matter how many definitions you write it will never replace your own observations on timing tell, actual showdown hands, etc.
    • Imimba1
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      +1