[NL2-NL10] [NL5 SH] AK monotone board CB

    • Th334
      Th334
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      Hero (BB): $5.39 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 4.1, Hands: 19114
      UTG: $5.00 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 21, 3B: 25, AF: 2.0, Hands: 34
      MP: $5.00 - VPIP: 30, PFR: 15, 3B: 0, AF: 7.0, Hands: 27
      CO: $14.96 - VPIP: 48, PFR: 34, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 73
      BTN: $16.85 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 1.7, Hands: 52 -- FCB: 67
      SB: $5.00 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 16

      Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with K :diamond: A :diamond:
      2 folds, CO raises to $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.62, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.47

      Flop: ($1.41) 3 :heart: 9 :heart: 4 :heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.70, BTN calls $0.70

      Turn: ($2.81) 3 :diamond: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $2.20, Hero folds

      Hi there,

      Do you CB such boards in a 3B pot? It helps only AQ, TT-JJ with one or two hearts.
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    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Hi German,

      You made the move to 5nl, congrats :)

      Preflop: looks fine

      Postflop: The cbet is close and dependent on villain. He should be able to fold all hands with no hearts but since he seems a bit fishy he may still call pairs.

      How many hands without hearts are in his range? How do you expect him to play pairs with no hearts?
    • Th334
      Th334
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      Hi Bogdan,

      Thanks, I wish I had any success here so far. You might see me posting NL2 hands soon I'm afraid :)

      I got 47% of his hands without hearts. I was putting him on AQ and 22-JJ. He won't actually play 2h2 here though.

      Bogdan, so as a rule of thumb, on monotone boards where the board cards do not block his flush-draw cards (like here), he has like 50% chance of having a heart? If on top of it he has some other hands he won't fold, our CB gets pretty close, right?

      As a conclusion, we should not CB monotone boards, especially versus a fish, and especially if it was a 2bet pot, because fish would have a lot of suited broadways (even if the board is not connected).

      TY
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Originally posted by Th334
      Hi Bogdan,

      Thanks, I wish I had any success here so far. You might see me posting NL2 hands soon I'm afraid :)

      I got 47% of his hands without hearts. I was putting him on AQ and 22-JJ. He won't actually play 2h2 here though.

      Bogdan, so as a rule of thumb, on monotone boards where the board cards do not block his flush-draw cards (like here), he has like 50% chance of having a heart? If on top of it he has some other hands he won't fold, our CB gets pretty close, right?

      As a conclusion, we should not CB monotone boards, especially versus a fish, and especially if it was a 2bet pot, because fish would have a lot of suited broadways (even if the board is not connected).

      TY
      Well, how often does your cbet have to work?

      And a lot of hands he calls with we still have some equity versus (at least 4 clean outs most of the time).
    • Th334
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      30% of the time.

      Was I too conservative thinking that we don't have 30% FE?

      So as long as we suppose the villain to fold most non-heart cards, we should CB, and especially with something like AK overcards?
    • BogdanPS
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      Originally posted by Th334
      30% of the time.

      Was I too conservative thinking that we don't have 30% FE?

      So as long as we suppose the villain to fold most non-heart cards, we should CB, and especially with something like AK overcards?
      We should have that much.

      Don't forget that even though some pairs have hearts they may not actually call.

      Like 22,55,66,77,88 type hands.
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Originally posted by Th334
      30% of the time.

      Was I too conservative thinking that we don't have 30% FE?

      So as long as we suppose the villain to fold most non-heart cards, we should CB, and especially with something like AK overcards?
      We should have that much.

      Don't forget that even though some pairs have hearts they may not actually call.

      Like 22,55,66,77,88 type hands.
    • CPallo
      CPallo
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      Co is a fishy guy, you have to 2nd barrel here or just c/f from the start. He has position and could float with many hands, as you rarely have made hand there or overpair.
    • Th334
      Th334
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      Originally posted by CPallo
      Co is a fishy guy, you have to 2nd barrel here or just c/f from the start. He has position and could float with many hands, as you rarely have made hand there or overpair.
      I 3 bet with either TT+, which would be an overpair, AQ+, that might have 50% hearts, and also a lot of suited aces, connectors and broadways, which would have a made flush 25% of the time.

      So I don't think that his chances of hitting this board are higher than mine. The opposite should be the case.