[NL2-NL10] [NL2 SH] AK gutshot 2B

    • Th334
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      Hero (UTG): $5.03 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 4.1, Hands: 19114
      CO: $3.93 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 15, 3B: 20, AF: 0.0, Hands: 71
      BTN: $6.75 - VPIP: 30, PFR: 15, 3B: 0, AF: 7.0, Hands: 27
      SB: $14.10 - VPIP: 48, PFR: 34, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 73
      BB: $16.95 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 1.7, Hands: 52

      Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG with J :club: A :diamond:
      Hero raises to $0.17, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.17, SB calls $0.15, 1 fold

      Flop: ($0.56) T :club: 4 :diamond: K :spade: (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $0.35, BTN calls $0.35, SB folds

      Turn: ($1.26) 4 :heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.85, BTN folds

      I don't think 2Bing here is a great idea, because he will connect with the flop quite often. So basically there're no cards we should barrel after such a flop. What do you think?
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    • Alan883
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      After such a flop i guess we have to give up our hand. There is very little FE and i don't know what worse hand is going to call.

      So i would check/fold flop already.

      Also on turn i dont know what is going to fold there. Maybe some Tx hands?

      Well it is to advances for me:) For judges maybe not :f_cool: :f_cool:
    • Th334
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      No-no Alan, worse shouldn't call here :) We bluff.

      As for the flop, the board is quite dry, we can represent a king, and we have a gutshot. I think you should CB here all day, as long the villain folds to CB at least sometimes (or unknown, like here). We also have position.
    • kymupa
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      Hello,

      Preflop is fine.

      Flop cbetting is questionable here and we would need some fold to cbet stats or some notes on them - basically anything that can help us.
      Without info I would prefer to check/fold here on the flop.

      As played, the 4h on the turn doesn't really improve our fold equity, neither our equity, so I would prefer to give up here since I don't expect to have enough FE to justify a bet here.

      Best,
      Plamen
    • Th334
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      Hi Plamen,

      Thanks. Why is the flop questionable?
    • Alan883
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      Originally posted by Th334
      Hi Plamen,

      Thanks. Why is the flop questionable?
      Because we have nothing and the board looks like we don't have much fold equity.
    • Th334
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      Yeah, I was kinda interested in why it looks like not much FE :)

      for me JhTh9h looks like not much FE :) or at least Jh8h6s.

      And we have something...it's not like we have 79o here.

      No, common guys! Check/fold the flop, really? He needs to fold 43% of the time! And he won't have a king 57% of the time, and not even a king or a ten.
    • Alan883
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      He or them? :D
    • Th334
      Th334
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      Originally posted by Alan883
      He or them? :D
      Okay, gotcha :facepalm:

      And it's not even 28, but rather 40 something :)

      Sorry, it's 4 am here. Cheers :f_biggrin:
    • kymupa
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      So as I said a little more info would definitely help.

      So I don't say that cbetting here is bad, but we have to know who are we cbetting agianst.
      For example, if those guys tend to call a lot then I think it won't be a good idea since we either have to bet three streets or so, or bet the flop and give up on the turn. Both options are not extremely good since we don't want to triple barrel as a bluff on NL10, and if we give up on the turn why exactly did we bet on the flop?

      If however, the guys love to fold, and since the board is dryish, I think cbetting here is good.
    • Th334
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      Yeah, I agree now, Plamen. I just didn't see that we're actually sandwiched here.

      Against unknowns we can definitely check. If at least we had position on both of them and they both checked to us -- we could think about c-betting.

      Couldn't we?
    • kymupa
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      If we had position the we could think about betting more since:
      - we can check back the turn and see the river
      - people are in theory less inclined to call OOP so we put more pressure on them.

      However, if we have position we could just take the free card and see the turn, which is a good option overall too and here still is close whether to bet or more.