[NL20-NL50] [sh] nl 50 KK vs flop raise

    • DeMarcohsp
      DeMarcohsp
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      Joined: 15.06.2010 Posts: 1,975
      Party, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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      CO: $57.13 (114.3 bb)
      BB: $63.87 (127.7 bb)
      Hero (MP): $50.75 (101.5 bb)
      SB: $19.50 (39 bb)
      BTN: $61.75 (123.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with K K
      Hero raises to $1.50, CO calls $1.50, BTN folds, SB calls $1.25, BB folds

      Flop: ($5) 9 3 2 (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $3, CO raises to $8, SB folds, Hero raises to $16, CO raises to $55.63 and is all-in, Hero calls $33.25 and is all-in

      Turn: ($103.50) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)
      River: ($103.50) 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

      Results:
      $103.50 pot ($3 rake)
      Final Board: 9 3 2 T 4
      CO showed 9 9 and won $100.50 ($49.75 net)
      Hero showed K K and lost (-$50.75 net)
      SB mucked and lost (-$1.50 net)




      Sample size is enough.

      Is his 21% raise cbet IP enough to justify stacking off here ?
  • 3 replies
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,908
      Hola,

      You can't do much vs his flop raise really. I would personally just fold... he raises in a 3way pot, Hero doesn't have Ks to help with playability and is OOP for turn and rivers. If you 3bet you just help him play his hand the way he wants imo. Unless you know he does this for value with worse hands or just about all his draws, it's just a fold on flop OR call flop, check/shove safe turn to get more money from his draws. I doubt he'd raise draws with a fish in the pot though, would just call to get a bigger pay when hits plus he can still bluff you later.

      Nit way is my way here, alternatives are debatable but people don't stack off light and although our hand can call this street in a vacuum we are screwed later too much.
    • DeMarcohsp
      DeMarcohsp
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      Joined: 15.06.2010 Posts: 1,975
      I agree with what you said and I think folding flop is good option.

      What do you think about villain's play here? Is it good to raise sets here? I would personally not do it in order to keep the fish in, but it might be good with the flush on board. deff not on dryer boards.
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,908
      Depends a bit how he views you as well. I got berated by regs for raising set on super dry board after they bluffed away 80% of their stack. If you are a non believer it makes sense to raise sets vs you some of the time since you spew it in.