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[NL20-NL50] [sh] nl 50 TPTK vs fish shove on the turn

    • DeMarcohsp
      DeMarcohsp
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.06.2010 Posts: 1,975
      Party, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      CO: $50 (100 bb)
      BB: $56 (112 bb)
      BTN: $50 (100 bb)
      Hero (SB): $50 (100 bb)
      UTG: $58.47 (116.9 bb)
      MP: $41.17 (82.3 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with A Q
      UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, CO folds, BTN raises to $2.50, Hero calls $2.25, BB folds, MP calls $2

      Flop: ($8) 3 T 9 (3 players)
      Hero bets $5.33, MP calls $5.33, BTN folds

      Turn: ($18.66) Q (2 players)
      Hero bets $13.91, MP raises to $33.34 and is all-in, Hero calls $19.43

      River: ($85.34) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results:
      $85.34 pot ($3 rake)
      Final Board: 3 T 9 Q K
      Hero showed A Q and lost (-$41.17 net)
      MP showed 9 9 and won $82.34 ($41.17 net)




      I need 23%+ eq here but I think that if villain never shoves draws I don't have that. Sigh and fold ?
  • 3 replies
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,909
      Did you consider preflop 3bet? Why do you lead here? Your hand seems a bit too weak. Maybe KcQc for the extra 4 outs should be your minimum leading range.

      As played flop and with betting turn, I would snap fold.. KJ, QT, T9, Q9, 99, TT, QQ, KK, AA.. can't find enough bluffs or lower value hands like QJ to get it in imo... I know, I gave him QQ+ too but he is a limping fish. He won't have all of those in his range but he will have like 1/3 of the combos, maybe 1/4 but has SOME of them.
    • DeMarcohsp
      DeMarcohsp
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.06.2010 Posts: 1,975
      Don't consider preflop 3betting as that would usually scare the fish out of the pot. Why would anyone do that?


      As for leading flop my hand is indeed a little bit too weak here as all the medium stuff hits so I can't expect too much FE.
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,909
      Your spot is not awesome vs the fish plus you can't let the reg get away with isolating a lot. Your hand can be a call or 3bet but I think it's better to call without dynamics and 3bet if the reg spews since you've been attacking his isos.