[NL20-NL50] NL50 JJ, 3bet pot

    • double2
      double2
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 04.11.2008 Posts: 14,642
      Boss, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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      Hero (CO): $85.11 (170.2 bb)
      BTN: $58 (116 bb)
      SB: $59.78 (119.6 bb)
      BB: $73.94 (147.9 bb)
      MP: $50.75 (101.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with J J
      MP folds, Hero raises to $1.43, BTN folds, SB raises to $3.95, BB folds, Hero calls $2.52

      Flop: ($8.40) J 7 6 (2 players)
      SB bets $5.50, Hero calls $5.50

      Turn: ($19.40) Q (2 players)
      SB bets $15

      Villain 5k hands
      23/17/6.5%
      3bet vs steal SB 8%
      3bet vs open BU 10.8%
      cbet flop in 3bet pot 83%
      cbet turn in 3bet pot 63% (16)
      WTSD 32%
      WWSF 51%
      Agg freq 39/42/27

      Notes:
      "-12/12 nl50, vs me, 88 b/c UTGbb, cbh flop QJxs, bvm turn T 50%, bluff bet river x 50%"
      -12/12 nl50, vs me, 77 BUbb, cbet AJ8ss, cbet turn no FD 4sss, 3rd barrel bluff river 50% K"

      I was not really sure if I should call turn and let him 3 barrel me (which I think he is capable of doing) or ship turn since he likes to call light.
  • 3 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Hi.

      Preflop: I think flatting preflop seems fine when you are slightly deep and he isn't all that active (i assume you are not that aggro with 4betting too?)

      Turn: I think given that you have the spade, calling Turn and letting him barrel seems to be a better idea.
    • double2
      double2
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 04.11.2008 Posts: 14,642
      Originally posted by mbml
      Hi.

      Preflop: I think flatting preflop seems fine when you are slightly deep and he isn't all that active (i assume you are not that aggro with 4betting too?)

      Turn: I think given that you have the spade, calling Turn and letting him barrel seems to be a better idea.
      I have a 4bet range in BU of 6.0%. But I don't have a 4bet/5bet dynamic with this villain yet. The other reason is that he 3bets vs BU 10%, it's not that high.

      I decided to ship turn. I was amazed with the result. I would like your input on villains play cause I think it's beyond horrendous. How would you adjust vs this player in general?

      Boss, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      Hero (CO): $85.11 (170.2 bb)
      BTN: $58 (116 bb)
      SB: $59.78 (119.6 bb)
      BB: $73.94 (147.9 bb)
      MP: $50.75 (101.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with J J
      MP folds, Hero raises to $1.43, BTN folds, SB raises to $3.95, BB folds, Hero calls $2.52

      Flop: ($8.40) J 7 6 (2 players)
      SB bets $5.50, Hero calls $5.50

      Turn: ($19.40) Q (2 players)
      SB bets $15, Hero raises to $75.66 and is all-in, SB calls $35.33 and is all-in

      River: ($120.06) 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

      Results:
      $120.06 pot ($3 rake)
      Final Board: J 7 6 Q 4
      Hero showed J J and won $117.06 ($57.28 net)
      SB showed J T and lost (-$59.78 net)
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      yeah he should definitely be checking the Turn. I don't think you really need to adjust all that much.

      we could fastplay more often since he doesn't fold. But at the same time this guy just randomly barrels his weakish hands without thinking of whether he can get value or not.