[NL2-NL10] [NL5 SH] A8 TP calling down

    • Th334
      Th334
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      Joined: 26.11.2012 Posts: 971
      Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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      BTN: $4.86 - VPIP: 4, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 23
      Hero (SB): $6.00 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 4.0, Hands: 20943
      BB: $5.00 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 11, 3B: 6, AF: 0.0, Hands: 91 -- CC: 19, FSteal: 67
      UTG: $5.78 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 20, 3B: 7, AF: 0.5, Hands: 54
      CO: $5.00 - VPIP: 9, PFR: 3, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 34

      Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with A :club: 8 :spade:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.17, BB calls $0.12

      Flop: ($0.34) 7 :heart: 7 :spade: 8 :heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.20, BB raises to $0.60, Hero calls $0.40

      Turn: ($1.54) T :spade: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $1.00, Hero calls $1

      River: ($3.54) 2 :spade: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB checks

      I was thinking really long both on flop and turn, and I haven't came up with a good story he's trying to tell me.

      So I just played a cowboy and called him down :f_cool: He showed some random AQ =/
  • 5 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
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      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Hi.

      I think you definitely cannot bet/fold the Flop with TPTK. Firstly people like to bluff raise paired flops. Secondly if this guy raises with some merged range on the Flop (any 8X), you are making a massive mistake by folding. So calling the raise is standard.

      On the Turn, I think it's not a very good card for us. T9 J9 JT all get there, but we are still ahead of flush draws. I still think it could be fine to flat here again, not going to be a huge mistake.
    • Th334
      Th334
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      Joined: 26.11.2012 Posts: 971
      Hi mbml,

      People like to bluff-raise on paired boards, but is it wise? It should work only against level 1 thinkers, because you cannot represent much either with your raise. If he had trips or stronger, he would just call most of the time actually :)

      So I don't really bluff much here myself. Is it profitable at all?

      TY
    • mbml
      mbml
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      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      it varies from player to player. Ultimately i will base my decision on the board texture.

      On wet boards, I'm bluff raising and semi bluff raising a lot. It makes more sense to fast play my trips too.

      On dry boards, I'm slowplaying all my monsters for sure. I can't rep much when I raise as a bluff.

      Ultimately it's about what you can represent, and also about how opponent reacts to raises. If opponent is a simple-minded player who just folds with nothing, then by all means just exploit him by slowplaying all monsters and bluff raising with air.

      I think on this 778 board you should bluff raise a fair amount with maybe stuff like KQ with a single heart especially if opponent has high fold cbet to flop raise of 50%+. Pretty easy to abuse people in such spots.
    • Th334
      Th334
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      Joined: 26.11.2012 Posts: 971
      Nice article we have here, thanks! :)

      What do you think about bluff raising vs. floating? Apart from stat-based reads (like his fold to CB raise vs. CBF & CBT gap), are there any general cases where floating would be better than bluff-raising? Because both lines are good on wet boards against loose opponents who CB a lot.
    • mbml
      mbml
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      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      raise more vs multi-barrelers. Float more vs people who bet once and give up