[NL20-NL50] 50fr KK MP3

    • AtrociousNightmare
      AtrociousNightmare
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      Joined: 14.04.2010 Posts: 1,185
      Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      CO: $57 (114 bb)
      BTN: $42.78 (85.6 bb)
      SB: $57.85 (115.7 bb)
      BB: $62.09 (124.2 bb)
      UTG+2: $51.06 (102.1 bb)
      MP1: $82.92 (165.8 bb)
      MP2: $90.52 (181 bb)
      Hero (MP3): $50 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K K
      3 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, CO calls $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, 2 folds

      Flop: ($5.25) T 6 J (3 players)
      Hero bets $3.72, CO calls $3.72, BTN folds

      Turn: ($12.69) 2 (2 players)
      Hero bets $7.50, CO calls $7.50

      River: ($27.69) 5 (2 players)
      Hero bets $13, CO raises to $44.28 and is all-in, Hero folds

      Results:
      $53.69 pot ($2.95 rake)
      Final Board: T 6 J 2 5
      CO mucked and won $50.74 ($25.02 net)
      Hero mucked K K and lost (-$25.72 net)

      VPIP: 18, PFR: 9, 3B: 2, AF: 2,3, Hands: 12558
      WTSD 18
      W$SD 81 (no small pots)
      WonSD River Raise 100

      Anything to say?
      Should I not third barrel a person who folds 76% of hands on flop? (having a CC of 8?)
  • 5 replies
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,897
      Hi,

      Should I not third barrel a person who folds 76% of hands on flop? (having a CC of 8?)


      This is what I was gonna say. Can you get 3 streets vs someone who folds flop a lot and rarely goes to showdown? I would still cbet flop 3way but then I'd prob check turn or river, usually turn. As played, I don't like your sizings.. the board is not as dry as you think on turn. 78+ has a piece, diamonds have a good piece as well. Bet bigger and decide river. Shoving might be OK if you actually are perceived as somewhat aggressive and spewy but against him I'd go bet flop and check turn when he calls. Flop bet is fine since BU is a lot wider and you get value from a lot more than from a tight CO.

      As played, river is a fold.
    • AtrociousNightmare
      AtrociousNightmare
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      Originally posted by EmanuelC16
      Hi,

      Should I not third barrel a person who folds 76% of hands on flop? (having a CC of 8?)


      This is what I was gonna say. Can you get 3 streets vs someone who folds flop a lot and rarely goes to showdown? I would still cbet flop 3way but then I'd prob check turn or river, usually turn. As played, I don't like your sizings.. the board is not as dry as you think on turn. 78+ has a piece, diamonds have a good piece as well. Bet bigger and decide river. Shoving might be OK if you actually are perceived as somewhat aggressive and spewy but against him I'd go bet flop and check turn when he calls. Flop bet is fine since BU is a lot wider and you get value from a lot more than from a tight CO.

      As played, river is a fold.
      By checking turn, what do we do on river if he checks behind?
      Can we find another value bet?
      If he bets, is it already a check/fold?
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,897
      Hey,

      It depends on what river comes.. On this one probably call again..

      Your hand doesn't look like KK when you check usually so he could value bet worse hands like AJ, QQ(sometimes) plus some AQ, KQs, maybe 99 turned into a bluff. It's very close vs a tight opponent really. If he bets huge you could just check/fold river, it shouldn't be a mistake imo. He just wins so often at showdown he will just have JT+ too often..
    • AtrociousNightmare
      AtrociousNightmare
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      Originally posted by EmanuelC16
      Hey,

      It depends on what river comes.. On this one probably call again..

      Your hand doesn't look like KK when you check usually so he could value bet worse hands like AJ, QQ(sometimes) plus some AQ, KQs, maybe 99 turned into a bluff. It's very close vs a tight opponent really. If he bets huge you could just check/fold river, it shouldn't be a mistake imo. He just wins so often at showdown he will just have JT+ too often..
      You mean check/call on river right?
      So we don't ever bet/fold on river after checking on turn and his check behind?

      Also what about on the turn, if he bets after our check?
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,897
      Check/call turn, check/decide river

      or

      Check through turn, bet/fold river.

      When he checks turn he has showdown value like weak-ish Jx, good Tx, not a bluff so you bet for value vs that.