[NL20-NL50] 50fr AKs CO

    • AtrociousNightmare
      AtrociousNightmare
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      Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
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      MP2: $50 (100 bb)
      MP3: $8.26 (16.5 bb)
      Hero (CO): $74.82 (149.6 bb)
      BTN: $60.70 (121.4 bb)
      SB: $22.59 (45.2 bb)
      BB: $31.65 (63.3 bb)
      MP1: $55.36 (110.7 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with A K
      MP3 posts BB OOP, MP1 raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.50, 3 folds, MP1 calls $3

      Flop: ($10.50) T 7 6 (2 players)
      MP1 checks, Hero bets $5.75, MP1 calls $5.75

      Turn: ($22) T (2 players)
      MP1 checks, Hero bets $10.40, MP1 calls $10.40

      River: ($42.80) 4 (2 players)
      MP1 checks, Hero checks

      Results:
      $42.80 pot ($2.35 rake)
      Final Board: T 7 6 T 4
      Hero mucked A K and lost (-$20.65 net)
      MP1 showed 8 8 and won $40.45 ($19.80 net)

      VPIP: 15, PFR: 10, 3B: 4, AF: 2,5, Hands: 10485

      How's the CBet on the Flop?
      A player of that kind folds often on this board on a 3Bet pot, no?

      True I can't represent much except ATs/overpairs.
      However I decide in its favor due to not very favorable board for him.

      2nd barrel on FD, plus the 2nd T gives me chances I can represent it.

      He doesn't buy it and keeps calling.
  • 7 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi AtrociousN,

      Preflop: looks fine (what are his PFR in MP, fold to 3bet, and 4-bet?)

      Postflop: The flop cbet is perfectly fine. Nits like him fold their equity in the pot and pairs under 6x.

      His range for calling is almost always sets, 88, 99, JJ, QQ, possibly KK and Tx hands (possibly just ATs).

      So with that in mind I doubt we have any sort of FE on the turn so unless you plan on betting the river too (when we don't hit) I don't really like our bet that much.

      Our equity on the turn versus most pairs is at most 9 fd outs plus 6 over outs for a total of 30%. We may be able to bluff a Q or J but not very likely.

      What was your reason for betting?
    • AtrociousNightmare
      AtrociousNightmare
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      Originally posted by BogdanPS
      Hi AtrociousN,

      Preflop: looks fine (what are his PFR in MP, fold to 3bet, and 4-bet?)

      Postflop: The flop cbet is perfectly fine. Nits like him fold their equity in the pot and pairs under 6x.

      His range for calling is almost always sets, 88, 99, JJ, QQ, possibly KK and Tx hands (possibly just ATs).

      So with that in mind I doubt we have any sort of FE on the turn so unless you plan on betting the river too (when we don't hit) I don't really like our bet that much.

      Our equity on the turn versus most pairs is at most 9 fd outs plus 6 over outs for a total of 30%. We may be able to bluff a Q or J but not very likely.

      What was your reason for betting?
      My reason was a blind semi-bluff, never a good thing, sorry.

      PFR in MP is 12, he has positional awareness.
      Fold to 3Bet 49, 41 on MP
      4Bet 6 (64)
      vsHero 4Bet 14 (7)
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Originally posted by AtrociousNightmare

      My reason was a blind semi-bluff, never a good thing, sorry.

      PFR in MP is 12, he has positional awareness.
      Fold to 3Bet 49, 41 on MP
      4Bet 6 (64)
      vsHero 4Bet 14 (7)
      Always try to ask yourself for a reason when you play.

      So if you were to equilab 12% and then do the math to see his potential range in MP (for calling a 3-bet) what would you come up with?
    • AtrociousNightmare
      AtrociousNightmare
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      Originally posted by BogdanPS
      Originally posted by AtrociousNightmare

      My reason was a blind semi-bluff, never a good thing, sorry.

      PFR in MP is 12, he has positional awareness.
      Fold to 3Bet 49, 41 on MP
      4Bet 6 (64)
      vsHero 4Bet 14 (7)
      Always try to ask yourself for a reason when you play.

      So if you were to equilab 12% and then do the math to see his potential range in MP (for calling a 3-bet) what would you come up with?
      Not sure what you mean.
      If he folds around ~50% of the time his range will be around 6% no?
      Something like 77+, KQs+, AQs+?
      Since he folds more like 41% vs me I'd add AJs, maybe AQo, QJs...
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Originally posted by AtrociousNightmare
      Originally posted by BogdanPS
      Originally posted by AtrociousNightmare

      My reason was a blind semi-bluff, never a good thing, sorry.

      PFR in MP is 12, he has positional awareness.
      Fold to 3Bet 49, 41 on MP
      4Bet 6 (64)
      vsHero 4Bet 14 (7)
      Always try to ask yourself for a reason when you play.

      So if you were to equilab 12% and then do the math to see his potential range in MP (for calling a 3-bet) what would you come up with?
      Not sure what you mean.
      If he folds around ~50% of the time his range will be around 6% no?
      Something like 77+, KQs+, AQs+?
      Since he folds more like 41% vs me I'd add AJs, maybe AQo, QJs...
      Well he does have some 4-bet range so we can remove some of his value hands.

      But anyway, that's exactly what I was asking you to do. Because that way you can have some idea about his potential range when you 3-bet preflop and when you take it postflop.
    • AtrociousNightmare
      AtrociousNightmare
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      Joined: 14.04.2010 Posts: 1,185
      Originally posted by BogdanPS
      Originally posted by AtrociousNightmare
      Originally posted by BogdanPS
      Originally posted by AtrociousNightmare

      My reason was a blind semi-bluff, never a good thing, sorry.

      PFR in MP is 12, he has positional awareness.
      Fold to 3Bet 49, 41 on MP
      4Bet 6 (64)
      vsHero 4Bet 14 (7)
      Always try to ask yourself for a reason when you play.

      So if you were to equilab 12% and then do the math to see his potential range in MP (for calling a 3-bet) what would you come up with?
      Not sure what you mean.
      If he folds around ~50% of the time his range will be around 6% no?
      Something like 77+, KQs+, AQs+?
      Since he folds more like 41% vs me I'd add AJs, maybe AQo, QJs...
      Well he does have some 4-bet range so we can remove some of his value hands.

      But anyway, that's exactly what I was asking you to do. Because that way you can have some idea about his potential range when you 3-bet preflop and when you take it postflop.
      What would you put in his 4Bet range?
      AK+, QQ+?
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by AtrociousNightmare

      What would you put in his 4Bet range?
      AK+, QQ+?
      I would say at least AKs, KK+. He is a nit in UTG and even though it's 7 handed he probably plays too many tables and doesn't properly adjust to number of players dealt into a hand.

      Some of these nits actually only 4-bet KK/AA from EP so I wouldn't be surprised to see AK/QQ postflop in his range.