[NL20-NL50] ATo BB/BU 3 handed

    • vengeance77
      vengeance77
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      [converted_hand][hand_history]Prima, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 3 Players
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      SB: $11.39 (57 bb)
      Hero (BB): $31.49 (157.5 bb) very loose image!
      BTN: $20 (100 bb) 3handed! 35/28, S BU 45, F3B 100/3/, CBF 75, CB-F 62, Agg% F/T/R 55/47/20 WTSD 21, W$WSF 38 119 hands


      Preflop: Hero is BB with T:diamond: A:club:
      BTN raises to $0.60, SB folds, Hero calls $0.40

      Flop: ($1.30) 3:diamond: 6:club: 5:spade: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $0.60, Hero raises to $1.80, BTN calls $1.20

      Turn: ($4.90) T:spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $3.30, BTN raises to $10, Hero folds

      Results: $11.50 pot ($0.57 rake)
      Final Board: 3:diamond: 6:club: 5:spade: T:spade:
      Hero mucked T:diamond: A:club: and lost (-$5.70 net)
      BTN mucked and won $10.93 ($5.23 net)
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      Is the x/r good? CB or X back on the turn?
  • 13 replies
    • BogdanPS
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      Hey Vemgeance,

      It looks like you posted this hand in the wrong forum. It's been posted here already: AK 3b pot UTG/BU TAG

      As a side note, once you leave a comment, if you'd like the judges to take another look at your hand please click the "advise judge to take another look" button.
    • vengeance77
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      I fix it :)
    • BogdanPS
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      If we have a loose image I don't like ck/raising a hand that doesn't have much equity in the pot.
      Even a hand like ATcc is better because it gives us 10 extra cards that help our hand.

      So, given a loose image, the fact that we are 3-handed and will get called lighter I don't like the raise at all (he also seems really aggro).

      As played what do you think his range is for bet/calling and shoving the somewhat blank turn (besides TT)?
    • vengeance77
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      On the flop I had enough FE+EQ to by +EV.
      On the turn I did value bet vs 77-99, str draws but after the raise it was very easy flod for me :(
    • vengeance77
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      Originally posted by BogdanPS

      As a side note, once you leave a comment, if you'd like the judges to take another look at your hand please click the "advise judge to take another look" button.
      Didn't work :(
    • vengeance77
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    • BogdanPS
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      Originally posted by vengeance77
      On the flop I had enough FE+EQ to by +EV.
      On the turn I did value bet vs 77-99, str draws but after the raise it was very easy flod for me :(
      You can say the same about almost any hand then :)

      If your image is trashed, especially 2-3 handed, then we have to assume we will get played back either via a raise or call. IF we get called our equity is important and here we just have 2 overcards (6 outs - 12%). With hands even like ATcc, or TJcc we have an extra 10 outs that help us.

      If you were to get called on that turn what do you do with your Tx on the river? I'd personally bet that turn smaller and go from there.
    • vengeance77
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      That turn is the best for my hand and I have 70%+EQ vs his flop calling range. On the river it's depends on the card: A, T, 3, 5 I will do value bet for sure on the blank I'll bet it thin on the others X back :)
    • BogdanPS
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      Originally posted by vengeance77
      That turn is the best for my hand and I have 70%+EQ vs his flop calling range. On the river it's depends on the card: A, T, 3, 5 I will do value bet for sure on the blank I'll bet it thin on the others X back :)
      What range did you give him?

      We are definitely ahead of portion of his flop calling range, especially if he calls wider.
    • vengeance77
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      His Flop calling range for me was something like:

      33, 44+, 64-69, 45, 56-58, 78, 79, A3-7 etc

      If his turn size was smallest and polarized I preferred to ship it :) . But I didn't have FE here with size like that :(
    • BogdanPS
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      Originally posted by vengeance77
      His Flop calling range for me was something like:

      33, 44+, 64-69, 45, 56-58, 78, 79, A3-7 etc

      If his turn size was smallest and polarized I preferred to ship it :) . But I didn't have FE here with size like that :(
      I'm not sure what you mean by the last statement. But even if we bet $2 and he raises small to lets say $5 we can't expect much FE if we shove.

      Don't forget that when you bet the turn (once we improved) anything that folds is a worse hand.
    • vengeance77
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      My last statement was that I gave him credit for depolarized Turn raise R, that crushed me like 2P+, if I had known that hi had draws on the turn I would have shipped it :)
    • BogdanPS
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      Originally posted by vengeance77
      My last statement was that I gave him credit for depolarized Turn raise R, that crushed me like 2P+, if I had known that hi had draws on the turn I would have shipped it :)
      It's possible for him to float with potential backdoor flush draws but even then the call would be on the lighter side.

      IT would be a bet/call if we knew he can have spades and possibly worse Tx that floats, OESDs and even occasional bluffs.