[NL20-NL50] FR50 87s

    • Evante
      Evante
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.12.2009 Posts: 833
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      BB:
      $39.99
      UTG1:
      $157.43
      UTG2 (Hero):
      $53.75
      MP1:
      $32.00
      MP2:
      $57.25
      MP3:
      $50.00
      CO:
      $49.25
      BU:
      $131.54
      SB:
      $20.00


      Preflop: Hero is UTG2 with A, T.
      4 folds, MP3 raises to $1.50, 2 folds, SB raises to $4.00, BB folds, MP3 raises to $10.00, SB raises to $20.25, MP3 calls $10.00.

      Flop: ($40.5) 9, 3, 7 (2 players)


      Turn: ($40.5) Q (2 players)


      River: ($40.5) 2 (2 players)


      Final Pot: $40.5.
      Results follow:

      SB shows high card ace(A K).
      MP3 shows a pair of sevens(8 7).

      MP3 wins with a pair of sevens(8 7).

      Sorry, that i post something that is not my hand but i dont understand this play by MP3 (REG).

      So did some lab work that 87s vs AQ+,JJ+ is around 33% of equality.

      So this mathematically make this a call because he is getting even odds? ( 33%/1:3, $10 into $30 pot, is this correct?).

      please advice
  • 3 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi Evante,

      He needs to call 10 to win 40 so he gets 25% pot odds (a bit more after you factor in the rake).

      With his hand, he has 32.4% equity versus AQ+, JJ so he can call if that's the range he put villain on.

      However what we have to consider here is the likelihood of him having fold equity there when he 4-bets.

      If he doesn't have fold equity he is putting in 18.5 to win the same amount. So one could calculate how much FE he needs to show a profit with this hand. It's fair to assume that SB's range is rather wide (for 3-betting) and he can fold some hands. It's also fair to assume that SB will most likely stack off lighter than JJ+, AQ+.
    • Evante
      Evante
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.12.2009 Posts: 833
      sorry for my lag of fundementals

      sir why do we put our own 10 bucks into the equation of calculation odds?

      so we are effective getting 25% then 33%?
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by Evante
      sorry for my lag of fundementals

      sir why do we put our own 10 bucks into the equation of calculation odds?

      so we are effective getting 25% then 33%?
      How much of the pot are we putting in? You can always look at it that way.

      You can calculate the odds with %s or with ratios.

      For ratios you don't put your money in the pot however for %s you do.

      So we put $10 into a final pot of $40, in other words we put 1/4th of the pot or 25%.

      33% is if we get bet full pot into. So there's one pot on the table, one pot from villain and one from us (so we put one third).