[NL20-NL50] [SH] AA in a 4-way pot

    • monvo
      Joined: 04.04.2011 Posts: 249
      Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2070052
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      SB: $16.43 - VPIP: 75, PFR: 38, 3B: 33, AF: 5,0, Hands: 8
      BB: $25.00 - VPIP: 9, PFR: 9, 3B: 8, AF: 0,0, Hands: 32
      UTG: $27.60 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 1,0, Hands: 4
      MP: $43.20 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 17, 3B: 7, AF: 3,8, Hands: 304
      CO: $28.50 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: 3,7, Hands: 184
      Hero (BTN): $31.05 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 21, 3B: 6, AF: 3,1, Hands: 906

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with A :diamond: A :club:
      UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, SB calls $1.15, 1 fold, UTG calls $1, CO calls $1

      Flop: ($5.25) 2 :diamond: 7 :club: 3 :spade: (4 players)
      SB bets $1.75, UTG folds, CO folds, Hero calls $1.75

      Turn: ($8.75) Q :diamond: (2 players)
      SB bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25

      River: ($13.25) 4 :club: (2 players)
      SB bets $11.18, Hero folds

      Hi all,
      This hand felt kind of strange.
      Preflop is standard I think.
      The guy who donks into me on the flop is unknown, although I suspect him to be a weak player due to his stack size. I'm not sure what kind of range to give him on the flop.
      Probably something like this: 22, 33, 77-TT, A7
      I decide to call because I don't want him to fold his overpairs.
      The turn is also a clear cut call in my opinion, nothing worse is going to call me if I raise.
      The riverbet is kind of weird and I don't know what to make of it at all. At the time I thought that it looked like he set the bet up on the previous streets and so I folded.
      There aren't really any hands in his range that would make much sense to turn into a bluff and so the only hands I see him playing this way are the sets.

      What are your thoughts?
  • 1 reply
    • BogdanPS
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi Monvo,

      Preflop: I would make our raise larger with two limpers to at least 1.5

      Postflop: That donk bet can be anything as you pointed out but I would look to raise here for pure value. Can you really expect a loose fish to ever fold TP+ here? That's very unrealistic.

      We are losing a ton of value by not raising here and we give his draws like A4/A5, 45, etc a cheap turn.

      This is a classic example of a spot where we don't get enough value for our hand out of an unjustified fear. If he folds to our raise he usually had nothing and tried a cheap bluff.

      The turn brings some FDs and I agree that now it's harder to get value with a raise but even if you made it like $6 we can still get called by 1p hands. This is a good example as to why we don't want to slowplay the flop because scare cards (for villains pairs) are coming in often.

      A5 also gets there on the river as well as 43 which is part of his range.

      However, considering how super weak and passive we have played our hands so far villain can easily overvalue a Qx (he can have plenty after donking flop) or try to bluff with a random hand. So for less than 33% pot odds I am calling here.