[NL20-NL50] NL25 - Just check/call or check shove

    • MaHnaK
      MaHnaK
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.01.2009 Posts: 4,226
      PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 441.28 BB
      SB: 53.56 BB
      Hero (BB): 200.4 BB
      UTG: 134.68 BB
      MP: 177.08 BB
      CO: 447.84 BB

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 4:heart: 4:spade:

      fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.8 BB, SB calls 2.4 BB, Hero calls 1.8 BB

      Flop: (8.4 BB, 3 players) K:club: 4:diamond: 3:club:
      SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 6 BB, fold, Hero raises to 20 BB, BTN calls 14 BB

      Turn: (48.4 BB, 2 players) 3:diamond:
      Hero bets 25 BB, BTN calls 25 BB

      River: (98.4 BB, 2 players) 3:spade:
      Hero checks, BTN bets 80 BB, Hero calls 80 BB


      Stats - 12/9 AF - 2 @77 hands

      77 hands weren't too many, but he seemed tight guy. Reason behind i just check/calling, we are 200bb deep and KK set could be possible.

      What do you think is right line? cbet or check/shoving or check/call?

      Reason i didn;t go for cbet, i didn;t want to get raised.
  • 4 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Hi.

      River is either bet or checkshove. There are way more combos of kx than kk or 3x. I dont like villains bet anyway if he has kx cos he is just not gaining value from worse.
    • MaHnaK
      MaHnaK
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.01.2009 Posts: 4,226
      Thank you.

      200bb is still okay to check-shove here? In case you didn't notice our stack size. :)
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      I think you should have bet larger on Turn, something like 39BB.

      1) Board has double flush draws - People get more stubborn since your range is more draw heavy
      2) Board paired - Less combos of sets from you

      River would be a 128BB pot and we will have 140+ left.

      We now rep super narrow (only 3 combos of 44) so I just jam the River and hope he hero-calls with KX, both flush draws missed anyway.
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      As for whether to check/shove, I think people just bet KX here on the River way too often without thinking whether they have any value.

      "Oh I have the best hand here probably, since I expect him to bet 3X/44 himself."

      Then when they get shoved on, and they make some crying call.